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yeah although i think what people, myself included is the "debatable" 30bhp more that the 200 has, your talking the power difference between your average 1.2 and 1.6 "normal" car between 2 versions of the same 2.0 16v engine that mixed with the extra (from memory!) 200kg? is going to make a...

also worth adding not sure about the 197 but the 200 cup chassis is MURDER on the road unless your on a lovely new bit of road! imo its a bit to stiff for your average uk road, and becomes a pain if you end up doing any long motorway journeys!

people get too hung up on peak power figures, that is an awesome torque curve, if you can call it a curve! more like a line!

as daniel says above

im genuinely interested in a shot of a 197 to see if the 200 really is as it was advertised as 20% more low down torque or what ever they said it had as im surprized how pokey mine is under 3000rpm, wish it was quite as urgent from 3000rpm to 5000rpm, feels a bit weak mid range then goes nuts at...

welcome to the mad house, where you from?

ive generally found subtract 10 from your 172/182 figure, maby thats just me, ive never worked them out properly im just going like for like on what the trip computers say

fuel consumption is horrendous! i should have mapped and repped the gt lol!!

i went from ph2 172 to ph1 172 to 200. would never in a million years go back. 172's were great in their day and will still happily keep pace with a 200 in a straight line but the 200 has a cracker of a chassis, awesome brakes, no rattles, recaros are awesome and they are a much nicer place to be.

my 172's would have done that no problem too but this seems about average for a 200 going by the reviews, again as i said its done 400 odd miles, so will loosen up a bit but cant see it making a massive difference only made 2 or 3 mpg difference on my dci doing 20k over brand new

im just being a moaning face c**t its not that bad lol

assuming you have windows 7 so no outlook express? i use mozilla thunderbird, ive tried windows live mail its pretty much the same as outlook express, but prefer thunderbird. both can be downloaded with a quick google search. heres the settings you need for what ever one you choose...

im down to 1 a week, 21mpg ftl hahaha

screw that if your needing an engine anyway, F4Rt

sat on the cruise control today @ 70mph for 30 miles and managed 29mpg!

DCI130!!!! that better be right!!!

if the last 10yrs of renaultsport cars are anything to go by it will be awesome regardless of how it looks!

chillihut

as above EGR valve clean and set of glowplugs would be where i would start before spending any more cash on it

cant see it making that much difference, only made 1 or 2 mpg difference if that in my dci going from brand new to 20k miles

decent sound for a camera phone video? must be a nokia of some sort?

i told everyone this would happen, exactly the same as they done with the F1 230! thats one reason it was putting me off ordering one!

my 172 used to do 38mpg most days, 200 wont do over 23mpg lol its only done 400 miles though!

my 200 averages 21.5mpg ive not had the heart to put a full tank in it yet!!!

theres one on renaultdci.net on over 500k its a van lol

yeah i agree its a technique that requires a bit of practice, the later and harder ur braking the easier it is, the pedal setup in the clio 3 is much better for heel and toe but the clio 2 even with drive by wire throttle is easier to do it with, pitty the mk3 isnt quite as sharp. mk3 DCi's are...

Its all about mechanical sympathy.

same as the issues with a 172/182 JC3 box though, heel and toe on down shifts and they are perfect, its people dropping down through the gears without rev matching!

not really a warm hatch, more a not quite frozen but definately cold hatch!!

106 as far as i know uses the same turbo though? correct me if im wrong? just delivers its power much better than the 100 did. i got on quite well with the dci 100 box but i wouldnt say its any better or worse than a JC5, although i do prefer the hydraulic clutch setup with the linkage on top of...