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i think renault should stay with a n/a engine, theirs no need for the mk4 to be any heavier than it is, their is more power to be squeezed and i for one dont like the way turbo FWD cars drive.

na no need to take the engine out

its not just all about mpg though a 172 isnt very refined compaired to a diesel, if i have to do a long journey ill take the diesel every time over the 172, apart from the fact it costs pennies to run its smooth, quiet, and goes much better under 5k revs ie around town compaired to the 172

and loads of torque ;)

was over his side of the windscreen in that program tho, cop was being a complete w**k too about it lol

awesome 5yrs of trouble free motoring then lol

k4m's are crap my mrs Dynamique 110 gets low 30's driving like a granny

one of my hot hatches does 65mpg ;)

personally for me it would be a late 172 (53 or 04 plate) for your money you would get a complete minter with some change! plus 03 onwords had ESP and 53 onwords had cruise control.

awesome mate, looks really clean and tidy, aye make sure they do a full cam and aux belt kit on it!

meh looks w**k, cheers anyway

these wheels this car any black dynamique will do if that pic isnt ideal

has abs and air con yes, id go ph1, as said above make sure it has an aluminium bonnet

cup spoilers usually go for around £120+ really depends on colour, if someone can get it in the colour they need without painting they will pay for it! so best bet is to hold off untill you find one in standard colour as not a lot of people want one in that colour due to all 172s having one in...

are you the guy i raced in my black diesel clio in falkirk?! lol

lol i recognise that!

vrs is an extremely capable car, but standard vs standard its not 172 pace, my dci is more on par with fabias untill 80mph then they have the legs slightly compaired to a 172

what a shame lol

not a fan of slash on twin pipes for some reason looks ok on single like a 172. 3" round will look sweet

improvement but still horrid

what engine?

pmsl show him the thread

oficially 172ps, 170bhp

lol 165bhp standard, remap 3bhp, induction kit -5bhp, exhaust, .5bhp i guess 163.5bhp :)

so whens it happening?

just remove the sidelights, looks better :)

pmsl looks like people in a 172/182 trying to get to work when the rear dampers are shot!

looks good needs a wash!

i ran out after 82 miles or something in the dci

if its the same as the clio it will be in the front page of your service book, sticker