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Nah i prefer quick ass f**k V6!

Came up behind this last night:- http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1098453841__v6.jpg TBH i think he felt a bit uneasy with the old valver bonnet in his face because this thing f**king shot off!

Mines the best colour............... black

Are you sure mate? The williams seats i sat in were exactly the same as my valver ones only grey? Oh and im on about phase 2s.

Just seen this topic as i was in a meeting. Bloody hell you williams drivers hey! Make the valver sound like its dirt! TBH mate other than the low down torque you aint gunna notice alot between the two in normal driving conditions. Only on the track or when really pushing them! As for the...

Im not gunna get into this but ive raced a 160 in my valver and stayed with! I have a few mods but not many im sure a 182 could beat me!

Dunno bout you lot but i think its about time someone scanned it in!

Dark rims on a Dark car - Sounds good! Welcome! :)

My mate just got a new sunroof in his RSi and it cost him £175 fitted. Renault wanted over £400 i think. Rip off!

Yeah i see it as a good change. Its running about 170Bhp according to PuntoGT3 with a Bleed, Seb Chip, Filter, exhaust and decat. When i droveit the other day it felt to be very much the same speed as my valver. Just gets to speed in a very different way! Itll be nippier round town no doubt with...

Thats the thing though mate. May mate has a spare set. Might get them on there and dump it 60mil.

Yeah handling is a bit shocking. Just makes it more fun though! Dave - Been playing with your wheels mate - check the link, what ya think...

That happened to my mates 19 16v the other week. The Smell is the worst!

Well were doing a trade as hes after a 16v and i wouldnt mind a bit of turbo fun. Seemed pretty much even in terms of performance with the valver so i think im gunna do it. Hes just gotta prove to em with a receipt that hes got this prob sorted. Its not as pretty as my valver but itll do...

Tony yep and what i have been told is its likely to be what Looney just said above.

Thinking about it, the best way to describe it was it was like the oil filter was slightly loose.

Yeah the turbo is at the back. It was weird though as there wasnt smoke out of the exhaust. Just oil from the botton of the car when it was on boost on the m/way. The Turbo is pretty new on it anyways.

Met up with PuntoGT3 from here this weekend to look at each others cars. We both had a little go and all was well. He liked the smoothness of acceleration of the valver and i liked the harshness of his acceleration! Turbos are fun! lol Its supposedly running around 170bhp and felt the same as...

It jut got me thinking when people say they dont see 182s or V6s. All i have to do is go for a little drive and theyre everywhere!

Basically ive just been thinking about the clios in the town where i live. We have:- Mk 2 Phs 1 Silver V6 Mk 2 Phs 2 Blue V6 Black 182 2 Blue 182s (1 with Lexus lights!:sick:) 2 Cups - Both Blue About 5 172s 2 Valvers - Both Black (Ones mine) Hundreds of 1.4s and so on Now for...

I left mine for 2 weeks no long ago and i couldnt beleive how well she ran after! Tappets ticked for about 30 secs and then she was fine!

Wouldnt you need 3rd for 60 then?

Yeah thats fair enough bud! Ofcourse everyone has different views. With regards to being better after 60 - thats where in my experience the valver can pull. I had duel with one down a motorway slip way and it was 80+ where i felt my valver had the advantage.

Thats the thing though. Valvers vary so much! You get sh*t ones and you get good ones. Im not gunna argue but when good valvers run low 7s to 60 i cant see how a GTi can be quicker? Unless they do it in the 6s.

Standard Vs Standard its too close to even talk about. Its all down to driver skill.

Nah you cant change the williams mate. Deck it yeah but on the standards. I know what your saying about voodoos though. They look great on valvers!

Ive had a tussle with a 172 but it wasnt for long as he turned off and he didnt pull on me. But as i said it wasnt for long so it nor me got to open our wings. I cant wait for the weston meet. Im gunna test my valver then against some of the others. See how she stands up!

Just must have been a sh*t williams or driver i raced then. I spose standard v standard the driver will play a big part of it. Anyway, im not try to argue. As i said in the post above the williams has more to offer, is a better car and will be faster! lol

in the end of the day:- The williams has more torque, more displacement, more bhp and a wider track. Its gunna be faster at some point.