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Dirty Rally 2.0 - get a wheel and brush up on those skills!

Mostly because it's their hobby and they enjoy it. Does there need to be more reason than that?

What did I miss?

Some of my cars have been tools, others have been passion projects. Ultimately, those cars are a hobby, so don't need to make sense financially, or even objectively. Something doesn't have to be "the best" for a person to have an emotional attachment to it. The best things in life rarely make...

The Cup has thinner glass, less sound deadening, a crappy light rear bench, no middle seatbelt, no air con (it was optional), no ABS, no CD changer, no spare wheel and maybe a couple of other bits I forgot. The Turinis might be lighter than the standard wheels too. The shells are identical to my...

Some logic in this, as Cups seem to be getting more expensive. The advantage with a Cup is the lack of ABS/air con more than weight, but those things can be removed easily enough in reality.

I don't and never will add it up. It's a hobby, so who cares. Better than pissing it up the wall on a Friday or Saturday night.

It's a shame that results are always dictated, to some extent, purely by obey. If you can afford a fancy car, you are in with a chance of you have a modicum of ability. I know a few guys who would do fantastically well, but they don't have £100k laying about to drop on a rally car lol. A shame...

I'm not sure the inbreds have figured out how to drive yet.

Norfolk. Lots of single track roads that are mostly used by farmers.

I had Spec 2s on my old 172 for a while. God they were shocking!

Love those!

The rain seems to have been making mine cleaner sadly.

Welcome aboard!

Fair point. I think most yoofs from Bradford that drive Golf Rs and A45s would struggle to know what those cars are though 😂 Perhaps I should have said "reintroduced". Weirdly though, the cars above probably aren't really known as hot hatches, but just as homologation specials.

To be a hot hatch, it probably does at least have to have a hatch 😂

It's a bit of a weird one, as I think you could argue that cars like the Talbot Sunbeam Ti/Lotus and Vauxhall Chevette HS/HSR are hot hatches, but they pre-date the Golf GTI, which people claim started the genre.

I think the lines have been blurred a bit in the last few years with the advent of the 'hyper hatch', which has introduced 4WD and outputs that are, in some cases, well north of 300bhp. We've now ended up with three categories; warm hatches (Suzuki Swift Sport, Fiesta Zetec-S etc), then hot...

I'm a bit confused. Seen a lot of it on PH and on here. I don't understand why the M140i isn't a hot hatch? It has a hatch, it's got five seats, it's in the C-segment, it's fairly quick and handles reasonably well, has sporting intentions. Why is it not a hot hatch? And if it isn't, what is it...

Just stumbled across this. No pictures yet, but they're claiming it's the car used in the add running for the new Clio. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-Renault-Clio-Mk1-2-0-16v-F7R-conversion/174123629988?hash=item288a93bda4:i:174123629988 They appear to have a couple of others listed too.

Indeed. I think you could argue that the Sachs hardware isn't actually very good at all, as they don't seem to last all that long before rebuilds. The money is in the ride tuning, and most people don't have access to the equipment to get that right, while most off-the-shelf coilovers are...

Fixed that for you.

It's definitely a nice/interesting car for sure. I just don't think I could put it in the top ten. Not because it's bad, because so much other stuff is so good lol. The poll had pretty strict rules so it had to be a specific model, hence Trophy and 172 Cup. I've not been in a Trophy, but I...

Not a bad list overall, though I would disagree with some of it. A crime that there is no MK3 Megane RS on the list, and there is simply no way that the M140i or 147 GTA are anywhere near the top ten hot hatches. The BMW being that high is just because PH is full of fanboys.

So it is! They're not exactly blessed with race tracks in Saudi, and there are loads of speed camera, so I'm sure it gets used properly 😂

Says it all about the buyers of those cars. The ultimate track 911, and it's parked in a show-off part of London lol

No problem. Let us know how you get on and we'll go from there.

The button in the centre of the diamond on the boot can be used to lock the car - at least it can on the 197, I assume the 200 is the same. That might help you in the meantime. It should unlock when you go to open the boot, or grab the door handles.

I'd probably try the batteries first, as it's easy and rules it out. The buttons in the door handles can stop working, but you can strip the handles down and replace them. A guy on Clio197.net can get the buttons. Does the button on the boot do anything?

This. I wouldn't modify an exhaust that's been designed with the dual outlets (well, as much as some aftermarket exhausts are 'designed'). Easier to just sell it and buy a single outlet version for a 172, then swap the rear bumper too. I'm with you to be honest. If I was doing a...