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The cars appeared to have been figured in the dry! 0-60 Fezza ST 8.2 secs Clio 182 cup 6.9 secs Seat Ibiza 150bhp turbo 7.3 secs Skoda VRS 8.5 secs (not bad tbh)

I know what your saying Pete but this was a hot hatch shoot out so surely handlinga nd performance should take presecdence (sp) over boot space?

Sorry to avoid any confusion this was the 182 cup!

TBH the 3 rivals were only warm hatches fezza, fabia RS and seat ibiza 1.8 T so maybe the clio was too performance orientated for them its figures seem to say so!

Moi:oops: no it got 3 stars for vfm out of 5 and a neg point was costly to run, every other mag thinks £ 4 £ its the best!!

WTF it lost on VFM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too fecking right, havent read the article fully but no doubt it lost on driving position and cabin quality rather than where it counts!

Fezza came top in autoexpress shoot out:sick:

:confused:

Hi Pocket rocket is it like the below damage as this was a big dent near the 2 lirtre badge, cost me £200 quid from a body shop to hammer out, fill and respray. The even gave me the spare paint for next time lol! http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1105465095__damagedcup.jpg

Tis a bit much lol!!

^^^^^PMSL!

Well bought you will be chuffed Ps for all those into swirl reduction check out this thread, taking things a tad too far maybe...

Best thing Phunkey_Monkeh is to register on the forum for people a little bit too obsessed about cleaning their cars:oops: http://shop.meguiars.co.uk/phpBB2/http://shop.meguiars.co.uk/phpBB2/

Didnt mean the car;)

^^^pics;)

Dont get people wrong cupsportmad its a great car and was equal to the 911 carrea s in all the areas where it mtatered in the evo test, however if they had placed a 182 with cup pack in the test the results would be the same as they are exactly the same car!!

R Jay Cup posted some good advice, to be honest it doesnt matter what car shampoo you use as long as you dont use a sponge, try the meguiars lambswool mitt! I would go with NXT tech wax and if your realy fanatical top it with meguiars #16. Or as R jay Cup said you could try P21-S as the...

What Chris182 said, but then we knows our stuff!!:cool:

What about a cup with air con?

Mrdemon I wouldnt even attempt a sponge as it just pushes dirt/grit against your paintwork with no where to go, it will however have somewhere to go with a deep pile mitt !

Do you mean meguiars?

http://letstorquebhp.com/fwd.htmhttp://letstorquebhp.com/fwd.htm Am fully aware of the limitations of this site but it appears to be spot on compared to vbox mag results for the RS clio range. 1.8 16v is quoted as 22.94 for 0-100 which is a tad fatser than what Ben H was quoting above...

Totally agree with R Jay Cup, dealer valet boys inflict swirl marks by ahem...preparing your car for you, it is easy to scratch a clear coat paint but very easy to minimise by washing top to bottom, using 2 bucket method and a wash mitt. IMO sponges are responsible for 90% plus of swirl marks...

So can you exceed the limit to overtake or not?

Ahem, ignore all of the advice so far;) Prevention is better than cure, use a lambs wool wash mitt as a sponge will only inflict swirl marks on todays water based clear coat paints. To remove what you have alreay without inflicting more try this product, best applied with a RANDOM orbit...

^^Not so sure bout the car though;)

Loving it

Same here, I believe NXT on its own looks better than topping with #16, could try another carnuba wax though! Personally am not a fan of super resin polish as its designed as an all in one and peeps use it like a wax when in fact it has very mild cutting properties.

^^^^150 bhp per ton is not good when you consider trhat a 182 cup runs about 172bhp per ton, torque is however where it catches up!