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Where are you based? Is there no one local you can take a look at? Im in Reading, Big Iain is up narf somewhere.

Dai, Youll have to take a trip down the M4, and you can see what the Twin 3" is like on my 172. Perhaps, a Bristol meet or somewhere similar?

Not sure, but my K-Tec sits 10mm from the rear bumper. I dont want to cut the bumper in case I fit the standard exhaust back to the car before selling etc.

I find that the exhaust sounds far nicer once it has warmed up. When I first start the car, its audible but not a sporty note. Then once warmed up, it burbles nicely on tick over and then growls upon blipping the throttle :D Makes me smile every time I change down through the geards blipping...

As for the poor quality comments, the fitter that fitted mine (bought 2nd hand from BenS) was most impressed with the quality of the system. He said it would easily outlast the car!! Bear in mind that the pics above are of the dirty tailpipes, but they are nice and clean now. BenS said it...

And 2 more images for you! http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1079613641__ktec2.jpg http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1079613673__ktec3.jpg

I hope BenS doesnt mind me using his pics, but just to give you an idea:- http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1079613439__ktec.jpg http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1079613476__ktec1.jpg

Rich, It depends on the angle you look at the car from. If you stand directly behind the car, you cant see the back box, just the pipes. If you crouch down, then yes you can see the box as well as the pipes.

Yes, really dependent on price tho. 2003 mk2 172 - Cat Back Zorst is only mod.

I have the K-Tec Twin 3" on my 172. Once the exhaust has warmed up, it has a nice burble on tick over. At 70mph on the motorway, it is very boomy. It is fine at 80mph tho :) I love blipping the throttle on downchanges just to get the zorst noise :D

I would pester at EVERY opportunity. Ask to speak to a higher person each time. How long have you had the car? I guess, ultimately you could demand a refund as the car is not sold with standard spec.

Its not available yet tho is it?

My car also shows up as a 1.2 Dynamique on insurance quotes, yet it is a UK car.

Aye, annoys the hell outta me when sat in light rain. Its the same with the windows. No other car Ive owned has done it.

Ebay... they are always popping up on there. Just need to swap the airbag etc.

Sod phoning em, get down there lad, dont take no sh*t for it either.

Keep us informed Iain, watching this one with interest. Got my Pop Corn ready, so lets begin.

Oi ya theiving scum, wheres my Xenons!?!? Well ask them to check the headlights as they are not bright enough, then when they look at them, innocently say... "Shouldnt they be Xenons?"

Do you have the headlamp washers on the bumper? Makes you wonder why theyve been swapped out? Its not been front pranged has it and they replaced the headlamps with the cheaper non-xenon lamps?

Do you have the headlamp washers on the bumper? I just

Do you have the headlamp washers on the bumper? I

No Xenons. Where do you stand with demanding them?

Do they "flicker/flash" when they first come on?

Tbh, it sounds like the "normal" 172 engine/subframe knocking. If youve not had it before, youre lucky. I think most people on here have seen it / experienced it at some point.

Yup, thats the exact tailpipes I have on my K-Tec system :)

I have no choice over the astra, if I take the job I get the car, end of story. Im paying £260/month for the 172.

Love your reason why Rob :D Looks like you all agree with the keeping of the 172, which is good because that my line of thought at the moment.

Im looking at getting a new job, which comes with an Astra as the company car (no option on car or money, its astra only) Ive only just purchased my 172 in Jan (it was regd March 03) so its only a year old. Should I keep it or sell it? I paid £10,750 2months ago, so really dont want to sell...

On the other hand, if they are too easy to remove, then the local scumbags nick em and put em on their BMXs!

Ditto that Yugguy. I mean, get a few 172s down to PE in one go, so that they have a day of doing 172s and hence bring the price down.