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its not a rival...my mate has a standard cooper"s" and from the word go im all over him...from launch i win and from a rolling 30mph in second im passing him before 80mph...He also had to take it back when he bought it saying it was only doing 25 mpg on average and bmw said "yeh and" I paid...

I can understand MG owners trying to defend there purchase.....they are good cars but only a good attempt at a proper hothatch. My mum used to have a rover 200 and thats what the MG is with a body-kit,an elaborate marketing plan to get rid of the 70 trillion body shells that are lying around...

wonder what that does to your engine long term if you dont have the right / normal running conditions ian

106 is better car all round its faster and handles better,maybe the valver is showing its age a little On the other hand 106s cant be had for 1500 quid Each to their own on this one for me ian

HI GUYS SELLING THIS CAR FOR MY BROTHERS GIRLFRIEND. ITS A RENAULT CLIO 1.8 RSI (FAST CAR). IT HAS TSW ALLOYS, NEW EXHAUST, NEW STARTER MOTOR, NEW WATER PUMP AND NEW TIMING BELT SHE HAS SPENT TOO MUCH ON IT..I WOULD SAY THE CAR IS IN AVERAGE CONDITION. THE ENGINE IS VERY GOOD AND THE CAR HAS...

pics soon please... ian

they would have to go a long way this time to better the original cup...imho,they saved so much weight last time i dont think theres anywhere else to loose it.. The 182 is now right down on weight so how would they do it without compramising the car and lowering it more than the original cup...

The cup was built to be nimble and handle better than a normal 172....i bet this thing is now heavier and handles cack due to changing the original spec suspension to after market poop Totally defeats the object really ian

unless you get a really good deal it may not be worth the change up to a 182.Unless your mind is made up ian

after 60 he would real you in .they are 155mph cars

think of the v6 with mods this guy could of had ian

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http://www.delfino.co.uk/http://www.delfino.co.uk/ are you serious jesus,that looks like a bodge job of a celica from poland... how can the looks of that compare to recent tvrs everyone to their own i guess ian

i think there on a looser straight away with this one its just too much like the 182 i mean when the original cup came out it was something like 1/2 a second quicker and over a second quicker to the ton and on the road most people say there isnt that much of a difference really ian

along with this free check you also need f.s.h and the yearly check for rust which costs about £30 ...if youve got that still then go get it done

the suspension is different on the 182 from the 172,but all elsae will fit ok ian

It says at the front of the article it goes on cost and performance to try to rival big names,like lamborghini gallardo for a 1/4 of the cost but is faster(cerbera) ian

i think the willy was behind the saxo purely on age...cant see any other reason cant believe the willy was in front of the fiat 220 turbo,corrado vr6 or sierra cosworth 4x4.......much better cars imho and much quicker ian

would love one....you dont buy a car to crash it....imagine a 10 yr old valver hitting a lamp post it would wrap round it like newspaper....still my heart goes out to your mate....wouldnt wish that on anyone..... The cerbera had the first engine that was fully their own,called the AJP engine...

1 persons op on a car is not convincing enough.....christ this is a clio website where there are a half dozen gripes a day,but we still keep buying them ian

but still posts the fastest figures this side of 20k find me something that beats 0-100 in 8.5 like a 16k cerbera The t350 beats an evo 8 330 round a track but because its made from elbow grease and spit means its crap...lol.....its also british and built the same way as the fantastic noble...

Pete,the jesus sucks eggs and does not no of another car unless its blue and has chav gold wheels 0-100 in all mags puts the pug ahead of the willy ian

it also says it gets beaten by the pug 306 gti 6:confused:,which rather ammused me ian

agree with that mate ian

Some of cosworths first engines were 1.5s with nearly 1500bhp.....and the original cossie block for the first 3-door sieras was a transit van bottom end... mikeCOStin and keith duckWORTH were the founders of the company funily enough [Edited by ian 172 on 05 October 2004 at 1:37pm]

Another example of the best hot hatch ever eh....lol ian

my speedo hit the limiter at a similar speed somewhere like the photo above around 148mph....strange though it wasnt like the limiter in 2nd or 3rd just a steady woooahh there laddy... ian

buy the v6,youll have more fun and be more individual.....mercs are everywhere....unless you had the money for an sl55 i wouldnt bother ian

The people that test these cars are pros and way more qualified to test the best set of figures for each car....IMHO autocar are very good and have been really consistant over the years....even with big exotic cars they will still sl*g them off if something isnt right I thought it was well...

autocar have tested the 182 at 6.3 to 60mph ian