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Lol. Exactly my point.

It was tony hunters car that they used. He was on the test. The 182 went quicker than the 200.

Ffs you guys are funny. 5th gear 'races', as proven on here, mean nothing. The reason the 197 gets stick is because of the owners! More biased than a vee owner! Xx

I'd read up before buying. If you do your research, pay for an inspection before buying, far better off buying private IMO.

Lol. No doubt the epic downforce from the diffuser held him back.

I've had a play with it, good phone IMO. Nice design as well.

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-phones/phones/pay-monthly/t-mobile/g2-touch/overview/

Tis an option.

Ahhhhhhh-fpmsl. £34k on a Fiesta?

iPhone

fpmsl

HTC Hero.

You must be joking? I'm not 100% on the exhaust, but the Renault pea shooters are a f**king disgrace. Ruined every 197 I've seen with them on. Flush with the diffuser or gtfo.

If it produces 40kg of downforce, the force exerted downwards on the diffuser would be 40kg. What he's saying that if you hang 40kg off the diffuser, would it stay on?

It does. It looks awesome.

Had a good nose around a few, and the albi 200 that Renault Brum had in a couple of weeks ago. Glad you can discuss the matter sensibly! I don't full understand how the length of the diffuser affects things, but from what I understand it's the angle of the diffuser that is most important (7-10...

OMFG. Here lie's a fundamental misunderstanding on diffusers. The diffuser slows the airflow exiting the rear of the car, reducing turbulence, reducing lift. It will help the function of a spolier. Cars like the F430 don't require big spoilers etc as it has a flat underbody (which creates low...

Oh dear, you seem to be getting all hurt and personal. I'm very sorry for 'offending' a car you don't own. Calm down Priscilla, no need to get anxious.

Can someone please explain to me why the Corsa diffuser is a gimmick, and the 197's isn't?

But to say the diffuser produces 40kg of downforce is completely incorrect! The Clio was designed as a normal car, where factors like mpg and low drag take priority. I'd be massively surprised given the shape of the car, the ride height and the diffuser if there's 40kg of downforce. If it were...

May also have been a vain effort to improve the 197's woeful mpg;)

Erm, the marketing dept perchance? The same marketing dept that fed us the horseshit about special tyres for the 182 cup pack? A diffuser needs a smooth, quick airflow to have a noticeable effect, if this weren't true why would Ferrari go to the expense of a flat underbody (a clearly...

They won't be told!

Exactly. It's marketing, and there's nothing wrong with it.

F430 iirc

c**t;)xx

A diffuser needs fast, smooth air travelling from the front of the car in order to be effective. Slow turbulent air (ie no flat underbody, or as flat as possible) stops a diffuser from working effectively. A diffuser works with other components. Without the other parts, it's basically cosmetic.

And lol at 'downforce'. Diffusers reduce drag and lift, they don't produce downforce.

It looks nice. It probably weighs bugger all, but it's a great bit of styling. It's not a race car, not every part on the car is functional.