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Yep, 325i. Love the way they're so excited, then...........awwww s**t

:o

Not really the point. The 197 has wider tyres, wider track so should corner faster, but doesn't.

No need to worry about 172 imports. Same spec, just check it's had alarm and locking wheel nuts fitted. Good bargaining point.

I'm sure that's magnum steele.

Given how well received the clios have been by the press (from the Williams onwards) I'm surprised we've not seen a big group test. Would be interesting. I think the most impressive aspect of the 197 is that it can match the older cars (and beat some of them), but with a lot more refinment. I'd...

Think the lap time vs a Trophy would disagree with that. Similar power to weight ratio, closer ratio gearbox, far better brakes, and yet still slower lap than the Trophy.

Every new car I get, I have the geometry checked.

Yeah, but this one's a bit special;) . Cheap to run, I don't have to use brakes any more.

Fair enough, nice choice.

What colours the TF?

I went from a 172, to a 182, back to a 172. In normal driving, bugger all difference (both my 172's were quicker), I'd not do the same again. A H&R'd 172 would be the better handling car, and you've got a great colour. Getting a 182 or a Trophy?

Wimp;) . Hit my head again this morning, gonna kill myself on that boot.

I saw a RB197 w/spoiler in the handover area at Renault Birmingham, maybe the same one.

Better paintwork than Ali's

Near junction5, you waved

Sorry, I meant are you getting a 182.

FPMSL

You aren't changing are you? From someone that's been there, don't bother.

Work on St Swithins St (end of the shambles). Only picked the Trophy up yesterday, but there's an older bird from Malvern that brings her Trophy in every day!

You sir, are a c**t.

Spread the word mate, the more people know it's a quick un the quicker it'll sell. I'd love to keep it, 172 for every day, Trophy for weekends.

Riz is dropping them into the V6. Still can't keep up with me though.

For sale, be sad to see it go, it's one of those freaky standard quick ones, mega top-end!

Hi, I used to live in upper welland, some ace roads in your area.

Trophy all the way. Seriously, go and drive one.

Sorry, I obviously disagreed with you:dead:

+1

Not sure on the mk2's, but didn't EVO do a track test and end up fastest in the 172cup?

Horses for courses. 197 is more capable, but less feelsome. As quick as a 182, but feels slower (refinement?). One thing to bear in mind (depending on what mileage you do) is fuel costs. 197's are a fair bit heavier on juice (closer to V6 mpg than 172).