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Good sales pitch there Fred.

Think he better leave right now

AOL is totally ghay! "You've got mail"

Christ! Thats a small kid!

Another one bites the dust Another one bites the dust And another one gone and another one gone Another one bites the dust, eh Hey, I'm gonna get you too Another one bites the dust

Oh yeah. I couldn't find the specs

A VTS (120bhp) is 130bhp/per ton. Although some make 130bhp standard so their 140bhp/ton. From memory isn't a Valver just under 130bhp/ton as well? I remember JONGSR4's VTS was as just as fast if not faster than his mates ph1 16v. Both the Valver and VTS are virually as quick as a 172 in...

Is the ZT the 75 one? Tell you're mate to sort his taste in music out! Power to weight ratio! Isn't it nice!!!

I found the Saxo's handling better because you don't need to put as much in to have fun. Less idiot proof if you like.

Few chavs own real VTS's Most chav'd up Saxo's are VTR's or Furio's The group 14 insurance gets them. I've seen more chav'd up 172's than VTS's in my time.

How a little Trophy sticker to go under the Clio badge on the back? Or would that suck a**e?

Lock it!

I'll give in 2 months before he gets another Evo. Shall we run a book on this? Nice car mate. Any mods planned? Yozza fast road brakes look pretty gud.

They don't listen Dean. Save ya breath.

I'm fed up with this VTS discussion! When will people learn that a VTS or GTi is quicker than people give it credit for!!

If its any standard car then for me it would have to be a 205 GTi

mk1 is deffo as quick as the Cup ;-)

Thats not the real world is it! It's a track! The VTS is a quick little machine! Thats why Tiff picked it. Although Tiff is a miles better driver than VBH. They should have said don't buy a 172 for 5 years because it will be 10k cheaper! lol! Doesn't the mk1's steering wheel look more...

I'm all about that! Awesome!

true but I can't help thinking its a rip off for basically an oil change

My cup is due it first service next month and I've only done 5000! Sadly I mainly use public transport and the Clio is only really a weekend car. I'm actually thinking of selling it because its something I don't really need at the moment. Should I sell after the service or before? Can't...

Isn't top gear

Yeah LHD Audi TT and BMW M3 are alot cheaper than RHD models. Imo this should be around £6.5k if its LHD.

nah!

Evo - May 2002 http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/roadtest/archive/?id=25802&x=170&y=8 Evo - Oct 2002 (Vs Cup) http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/roadtest/29870/northern_exposure.html

Bet people were saying the mk2 was horrible back in 1998.

Don't only Williams 1 have plates?

Just had a blat with an R32 in my Cup and no way did it rip me a new a**ehole! Was a tiny bit quicker once the speed was up. The golf after all is a heavy lump a launch off the line. Bloke looked confused he didn't leave my little cheap clio standing.

Wasn't there a bloke who fitted Porsche brakes to a nova and put himself though the windscreen

People on here have had more than 130mph for standard cars. GPS confirmed to.