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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    lol....i dont hate the 17/82s ...they are fairly decent cars. but they just didnt move the game on like the legendary williams did, to class is as best hot hatch would be a massive travesty to the motoring world. the driving position is crap, but livable with, the steering weight is non...
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    oh yes.man of many usernames cos he keeps getting banned.
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    and as u know rob....the wheels have been repainted....just like the front end of ur mums car ;) only without the overspray
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    except abs and no...it has hardly any 'feel' to the steering, is heavy, uncomfortable, and doesnt handle all that great
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    errr no not really....cos not ALL williams es have no aids. the later ones do have abs. and its shite. which is why i only have 'proper' ones. no numbers after the williams stickers on mine, and none wanted/needed. as above, most on here will be too young to really appreciate what the...
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    more reliable??? iv had my williams for 8 years. i havent had 1 serious prob with it. the car is 16 years old, i have the full history, its never had any major probs. i go to it, put the key in, it starts. theres no aqueeks, rattles, groans, theres no over rated over priced suspension...
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    the 17/82s are a step backwards in terms of what a hot hatch is all about. as are the mk4/5/6 golfs etc etc.
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    and how can you argue that the trophy is better than the willy?? in what way?
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    because we will admit that the 17/82 s are a load of shite. thats honesty for ya
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    blinkered in what sense?? it won rallys, it won the hearts of the general public. it set a precedent at reno regaining their history of hot hatches, on which they tried to build on. it took them 10 years to get anywhere near equaling it . all driver aids are fukkin useless.......thats the...
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    lol....iv driven all those except the r26r. and id say the williams is a more involing, drivers car, i.e no 'aids' like the trophy/v6/r26 the 205 granted doesnt have them, and is a hoot to drive, so is deserving to be in the list, albeit not above the williams. and you forget, evo had a...
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    but thats not just for hatches is it?? come on now..... all round ability is where its at. its the reason you bought the trophy....as u keep reminding us..... and the willy beats it hands down, fairly equal in terms of drivability,but it took reno 10 years to get anywhere near the willy...
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    yeah possibly. but the winner would be the same ;)
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    thats older than the back end of no. 0002....id say the front end....but thats not so old almost as old as this
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    197....whats it done?? williams is quicker, better looking, comfier, better to drive......i could go on. ;)
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    at the end of the day, they arent trying to please anyone....just using their experience as professionals to give a factual result. and they have it bang on.
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    u bin lookin?? lol
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    thats just it tho....the valver DOES deserve to be there, as do many other cars. the lotus sunbeam is a massive omittance imho. they both DESERVE to be there, nearly as much as the williams deserves to be top of the pile ;)
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    yes. im not denying that. but how much of how it drives is down to the 'aids' ?? like th er26 round spa, the guy from reno was shitting it cos i was actually trying to get it sideways without all the 'aids' spoiling the fun.
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    yes for a modern car they are good. id rather have the meg than the newer clios tho in all honesty. but still.they take away th edriver involvement with all the 'aids'......and thats bad aids btw ;)
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    in the williams......probably all the others in the list ;)
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    why??? the willy owns them too.....and proper willies dont have abs etc ;)
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    aye. but the willy owns it ;) lol i test drove a proton many moons ago, was tempted when they were new, but didnt think it was much of an improvement on the valver i had at the time, whereas the willy just blew it away. i wonder how well the newer cars would do if they didnt have all...
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    still in the showroom....have they sold 1 yet?? lol and what about the proton gti?? tweeked by lotus u know lmao
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    altho i AM surprised theres no lotus sunbeam, or even the TI, or valver. id put a valver over a mk1 gti for driving pleasure tbh.
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    One Clio to Rule them All...

    saw this list in the mirror today....was chosen by autocar magazine. the motoring press, who DO know what they are talking about, and get the oppertunity to drive all the cars they have voted on have only backed up what iv been saying for years, as well as others. williams...
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    mk1 valver f7r megane engine swap ?

    which is why i added the port/polish
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    200 supercharger, turbo and re map and ecu

    i wouldnt bother with nos tbh. my personal opinion. i wouldnt want to spend £££s on something that only gives gains some of the time, and then needs more spending after every 5 mins of running. bottle refills etc. nos is last ditch effort to extract every last possible 0.1 bhp out of the car...
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    mk1 valver f7r megane engine swap ?

    can always whack the meg valves in the valver head while your at it. and give it a little port/polish. best of both worlds, keep the dizzy and loom off the valver for simple swap
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    mk1 valver f7r megane engine swap ?

    only a 10 min job to swap heads when engines out .... easy done.
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