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Think it is only you and me still up Wongy!

Wongy I hope you have better luck with this one!

Had I known earlier I would have come with him!

Welcome back from Cornwall Nick!

The new one looks even worse than the first Vectra! The back is awful and I have always hated the silver -V- bit on the Vauxhall grille. We had a couple of V6 Calibras until they started putting that -V- thing on. Yuk!

Ben what was up with your car and where did you have the MOT and work done?

Meant to say Edinburgh is miles from Southend - sorry!

Ben do you realise that Southend is hundreds of miles from Southend??

Welcome back from Cornwall Nick!

The new one looks even worse than the first Vectra! The back is awful and I have always hated the silver -V- bit on the Vauxhall grille. We had a couple of V6 Calibras until they started putting that -V- thing on. Yuk!

Joe what are the DTs?

I think the newer mk2 Clios are tougher than the older ones, as I know someone who overturned one down a slight embankment and you would hardly have known it had been on its roof! Does it have some sort of strengthener in the roof? Perhaps the height is a safety thing?!? It stayed more or...

Ben what time is it where you are? I thought you would be in bed!

PS. Forgot the .co.uk bit!

Have you heard from him yet? It might not be until Monday now, as he doesnt work weekends but he will try to help you as much as he can because he said there is quite a bit of stuuf to mod the 172 with. In the meantime you could e-mail him at johnh@demon-tweeks and let him know exactly what...

Geoff, I think you will find that it is only the dealers who say that the warranty is affected if non-dealers do any work on your car. This is completely untrue, providing that parts used are Renault or whatever the make of car is. I have mentioned this before, that a good friend of ours owns...

Sorry, I did mean Geoff! Sorry to have frightened Nick!

Joe what are the DTs?

I think the newer mk2 Clios are tougher than the older ones, as I know someone who overturned one down a slight embankment and you would hardly have known it had been on its roof! Does it have some sort of strengthener in the roof? Perhaps the height is a safety thing?!? It stayed more or...

Ben what time is it where you are? I thought you would be in bed!

PS. Forgot the .co.uk bit!

Have you heard from him yet? It might not be until Monday now, as he doesnt work weekends but he will try to help you as much as he can because he said there is quite a bit of stuuf to mod the 172 with. In the meantime you could e-mail him at johnh@demon-tweeks and let him know exactly what...

Geoff, I think you will find that it is only the dealers who say that the warranty is affected if non-dealers do any work on your car. This is completely untrue, providing that parts used are Renault or whatever the make of car is. I have mentioned this before, that a good friend of ours owns...

Sorry, I did mean Geoff! Sorry to have frightened Nick!

Good Luck Keith if you have to use a baby seat! You will have loads of room in the Honda as my neighbour has a CTR and it is cavernous inside! Still prefer the cosiness of the 172 but I can appreciate that you might want more space.

Ben, once again John is to try to sort things out for you. I have given him your e-mail address again. OK?

Good Luck Keith if you have to use a baby seat! You will have loads of room in the Honda as my neighbour has a CTR and it is cavernous inside! Still prefer the cosiness of the 172 but I can appreciate that you might want more space.

Could it be so that he can come on here and say "My CTR thrashed a 172"!!??

What is OutKa5ts picture of at the top of this page? I can only see a red cross in a box!

Telford Mike, obviously the leather seats and other goodies have been removed from the Clio Cup to lighten the weight and because they are quite a bit cheaper. But then I expect you know that!