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I notice you got a few problems with your barnet mate, will let you know if I'm ever in Wales with my clippers. Will bring you a jumper too.

Still none the wiser anyway, think I need to test drive the 197 and make my own mind up. Interesting getting opinions though ... anyway had better dash, got someones hair to cut .... ;-)

I hate that bullsh*t talk. People used to say my 350Z was a mans car but my Boxster S and Honda S2000 where hairdressers cars. Without a doubt the Boxster S and Honda where better drivers cars than the 350Z ever was. I can guarantee you there will be people out there who will claim all Clio's...

I couldn't agree more, its excellent value and great fun. Just considering the 197 because I have a couple of grand burning a hole in my pocket. I am either going to spend it on the 197 or on modding my 182. I am veering towards the 197 just because I like the way it looks but I like the looks...

The review I saw he took the cronic p*ss out of it for half the time, saying it was made of tin and then at the end said the performance was quite mental and likened it to a pet dog. I thought it was a bad review personally. Def did not do such a great little car justice.

He was not that complimentaty about the 182 either, which really p*ssed me off because he could not have been more wrong about it. The bloke wouldn't know a decent car if it smacked him in the face!

Is it not true that cars have moved on in just a couple of years since the 182? Would the 172/182 get the same reaction as it did if it was released now? I am not so sure. I keep reading mixed reviews on the 197, some have been like you say fairly average whereas other have been very...

I bet the voting ratio falls in line with the ownership ratio, i.e. most 182 owners would say 182, most 197 owners 197. I am really looking for advice from someone who has driven or even better owned both. End of the day I am sure they are both great cars, I just want to know whether I lose much...

I must say I am surprised by these interior comments. I think the interior is probably the poorest aspect about my 182. I have not seen the inside of the 197 but I guessed it would probably be an improvement. Your right though the interior is the least important thing about a car like this and...

What about the power to weight ratio in the 197, I know it is a fair bit less than the 182, how noticeable is that on the road? Does the car feel a lot heavier or just as nimble? I am 90% sure that I am going to go for the 197 but there is still time for you lot to put me off the idea ...

How does the 197 compare to the 182 in terms of performance? Has anyone put them up against each other on a track run? I had a look at the 197 the other day and must admit I loved the way the car looked, think its a better looking car. I am seriously tempted to swap however I am really...

I bought my 182 for 8.5k, if I spend another 3k I have spent a total of 11.5k on it. I dont think this is a lot to spend neither do I see many better driving experiences available for this kind of money. The modications would give the car a power to weight ratio that is on a level or at least...

I appreciate all of the advice from people supporting AW and GDI. I will speak to both and try to make my own mind up. Its nice to have some choices anyway. S666Mah, I read your thread and your modifications sound very interesting, its a real shame you had to put up with the negative remarks...

Thanks Ben, will check Angel Works out ... 450bhp 172 sounds f*cking mental ... ;-) Will check out your post too Mark now I am a member. Busy at work this afternoon though so doubt will be able to comment again until later tonight or tomorrow morning ..

Lol, I see .... had better take the plunge then I suppose ...

Its saying I dont have permission to view the thread for some reason? Strange cos I am definately logged in ok????

Will take a look mate, dont worry I always ignore haters

"Anyway James, wouldn't really listen to all the "know it alls" on here I'm sure you know what to do now anyway." Its ok, you expect to get a few know it alls, in general I think the advice has been fairly good. Can you tell me any more about the mods GDi have done to your car, how much of an...

"Question from a dumb f**k: Are you actually going to notice an extra 20hp in a clio? Sounds alot of cash for little gain. Why not upgrade to a Meg 225 etc?". I think as the clio is a very light/small car that 20bhp is actually a fairly big increase and I would be very surprised if I didn't...

Good call S666Mah, think that is exactly what I will do, cheers mate

Great some good advice here I think. Sounds like 2k should do it or at least get me close then. Will give GDI a ring as they seem to get the most recommendations. Perhaps I could then spend the other grand on a coilover suspension and brakes ... cant wait to get started will keep you all...

Thanks for all of the suggestions, I think it sounds worth giving GDI a ring. "20-25bhp is a big ask on 182's without spending a large amount of money. Is it mainly a road car? What sort of budget were you looking at?" Tom, its an every day car for me rather than a car specifically for the...

Thanks for the advice, will check out the other tuning companies (gdi, ktec etc). My previous car was a boxster S, before that a 350Z, neither of which I could really afford. I wanted something fun to drive but also affordable and so I jacked the Boxster in for the 182. I have been very...

I am interested in uprating my 182 and would like to try and get an increase of around 20-25bhp. I would be interested to know if anyone else has upgraded there 182 by that sort of figure and what they had done and how much it cost? I notice Morego do an upgrade (cams, ecu etc)for around...