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This is probably the best time to race a scooby, when its new i remember mine when she was new and i had problems outpacing a honda civic 1.8vtec but given a few miles under her belt and the next civic (oh and id had the PPP fitted by this time too ) i left him for dead in 5th at 70mph he did try to keep up but by that time it wasnt much cop
New scooby will be very tight and those performance figs are a little inaccurate as scoobs get quicker with age
Yep, raced a Y-reg WRX estate a while back from a roundabout onto a dual carriage way - both of us were 2-up and as we reached !20 mph i went past him with my friend waving as we did so! got past and put a nice gap there. Later on he said to a friend of mine that hed been toasted by a young kid in a clio sport! that would be me
I raced a new-shape Impreza WRX on a 51 plate recently.
We started at some roundabouts. It was a red car and standard too, but was definitely not being run in by the way he was treating it!! We spotted each other and started to boot it. He definitely had more grip than me on the rounabouts - by quite a big margin. I was easily losing grip first. Thats 4x4 handling for you!
Anyway, out of the rounabouts and all the way thence up to about 90 (the fastest we got to due to road length), he was not getting away an inch. Dont read this wrong - Id have never been able to pass - but was very surprised as the Impreza is a bit of a performance icon.
To be fair, my car was timed with a 19 second 0-100 12k miles ago (previous owner with a journo friend). The new Impreza WRX gets 0-100 in 18.3s seconds according to Evo.
A new 172 is less than 20s 0-100 (probably less once run in) and would therefore give the WRX a good run too.
Thanks for the replies guys, Yogi I ran a 15.7 1/4 at York car only had 4k on the clock and it was damp and in my defence it was my 1st time there let me know the times the scooby ran it will be a big help, sounds like I thought it would I think my m8 is going to get a big shock someone said stay away from the twisty bits but I know the 172 is more than capable as there are a few videos of a 172 staying with scoobys on the track and reeling them in under braking well I think Im going to have some fun before he gets any mods.
Theres only one way to find out, just do it, and have a b****y good laugh if you do beat him!
I agree Nick, brakes are useless, these are next on my list, got to get the cambelt done Saturday, so a bit of saving to do after that.
As im currently on my 5th Impreza (currently new shape), I would say with conviction that (in dry conditions) there would be nothing between a 172 & a "standard" WRX........
Now an older Impreza or something "slightly modded", then game over!!!
When I got my current car, I was dissapointed mainly with the delivery of the power which felt like the lack of it. OK now it has been changed beyond recognition with complete decat pipe (all 3 cats out), air filter, 18" wheels, LEDA race suspension. Now its a much better car and is faster than any of my previous Imprezas over a proper road, including the ver V Type R.
Also Impreza engines never loosen up until over 10K miles and that is the absolute truth.
The other problem is that Subaru import them with really restrictive exhausts, so that with only an exhaust change will release the real power of the car,,, but I agree that a standard WRX will struggle against a 172 in the dry.
a rolling start would help a great deal, the 4x4 means that if hes willing to do it he could be well ahead off the start, side stepping the clutch at 4-5k gives spectacular starts on 4x4s and theres no way our humble FWD clio can compeat, but if hes a bottler or you get a rolling start you stand a much better chance of keeping up with him
Nick, we need a nice quiet road somewhere, I dont really fancy a drag strip with loads of people watching, not that I mind anyone seeing if I lose, its in case I fluff a gear, or stall it etc... You know what its like if youre nervous and youve got loads of people watching! (especially being the fairer sex!)