1.2 Subframe Onto A 172...

[Faxo]

The gearbox mount that isnt on the 1.2, is it vital?

Ive had nothing but trouble getting subframe off, and i just want my car back on the road lol

Can i just cut the stud off but leave the actual mount there resting on the subframe?

 

[Fred@BTM]

nope

you only have to drill 2 holes, doesn't take long

 

[Faxo]

No it isnt vital, or no i cant cut it off lol

 

[lemonnobby]

no dont cut it off

 

[Djw John]

Just drill holes in the subframe for the mount, its all Reno do anyway!

 

[FlansS14]

Have u measured the distance between the lower arm mounts? I've heard mixed
opinions on weather the 172 one is 1/2" wider than the 1.2's ect causing negative camber?

Do u have both to check?

Flan

 

[Fred@BTM]

subframes dimentionally are identical

 

[sideways danny]

except ph1s which have a spacer on one corner

 

[Hutchie]

hmmm i actually found an inch difference between wishbone bolt holes when i changed to running 172 brakes etc, with the 1.2 subframe still in the nearside drive shaft caused the gearbox to move as it was forced by the knuckles/joints on the driveshaft.

i hate to dissagree with you fred i really do but this time i do.

 

[Fred@BTM]

eh? so you say 172 drivesafts don't fit 1.2 subframe?

 

[sideways danny]

but that just means the length of the wishbone is different, which isn't in question. The actual subframe is the same width. There's even a difference between ph1 172 and 182 wishbones.

 

[Hutchie]

well i got a complete front end off a ph1, put everything onto my 1.2 apart from the subframe itself. found the driveshafts were too long. fitted the "sport" subframe and it fixed the problem.

:S

 

[Fred@BTM]

wishbones (well mainly balljoints) are different, hence why i run 1.2 driveshafts, infact the whole front end is 1.2

 

[Hutchie]

but i put 2.0 wishbones, driveshafts, hubs, disks, Calipers, ARB and struts on.

driveshaft was effectively pushing engine side to side.
fitted 2.0 subframe and it fixed it. :rasp:

 

[sideways danny]

sounds like your car's a right spooner

 

[Hutchie]

sounds like your car's a right spooner

ill spoon you

 

[Fred@BTM]

sounds like your car's a right spooner

i've seen cleaner banger racers

 

[Faxo]

Wow thread dredge!

I fitted the 1.2 subframe no problems after drilling the missing holes, then this happened a few days later...

The subframe wasn't to blame though, the Escort was lol

 

[FlansS14]

Sounds like we cleared that one up... Lol

So could the phase 1 1.2's have a different subframe but phase 2 onwards are the
same?

Anyone got a tape measure

 

[Hutchie]

every time i measured mine i got a few mm different lol, maybe im a r****d.

 

[FlansS14]

Maybe that one was bent too lol

 

[Hutchie]

it it wasnt it is now, clouted it with a sledge hammer

radiator didnt fit so i made it fit

 

[Kyle.]

Ive got a 1.2 subframe on my 172 and it fitted fine afaik

 

[FlansS14]

I'm sure I put one on my 182 thinking about it?

Right I'm gonna get a non sport phase 2 subframe and measure it!!!

Lets get this settled once and for all!!

 

[FlansS14]

Right... ive measured both!! there the same

The non sport oned will fit but are not double skinned and you need to drill a hole for the gearbox

Done...

 

[Fred@BTM]

mine runs a 1.2 one, but then again it is a 1.2