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BMW 535D
its quite close between 16v and gti but the 16v should just edge it
Yep very similar but 106s are newer and more expensive so you can get a perfect valver for the price of a nail106!
O yes
O yes!
I tried a few 106 GTis when I sold my 16V as Id been told they were so good. The conclusion I came to were that they are not as "good" as a Valver. The ones I tried were about even in 1st and 2nd gear at full pelt, but lacked after that. They also had bugger all torque. People always say that the Clio 16V has no torque, but its much better pootling along at 2-3000rpm than the little Pugs were. The Valver also felt considerably quicker overtaking in the post 4500rpm powerband.
Then there was the handling. How can I put it?... the Valvers just seem more solid and controlled. Yes, if you want to give it death on mini-roundabouts the GTi is amazing, but on sweeping A-roads and bumpy B-roads, the Pugs I tried were not Valver pace. I know I wasnt familiar with them, but I reckon a 16V is a quicker point-to-point motor. Valvers dont throw you into the nearest hedge on the limit either.
Clio 16Vs have a deservedly average reputation for running costs, but the Pugs I saw were in poor shape and didnt seem to be wearing the miles that well.
I really went to the Pug 106 GTi with an open mind and really was about to buy one. I was disappointed at the time as Id been hoping to get one. In the end I started looking for a Williams: the car Id always wanted but had been put off by the trials of finding a sensibly-priced minter. It was a long wait, but boy is it a more able hot hatch than the 106s I tried.
...and youll get 95% of that legendary ability in a Clio Valver.
Come on, this is a clio forum, of course everyone here is going to say get a clio 16v instead of a 106 gti. Ask on the peugeot forums and theyll say 106 gti. They are great cars, both the clio 16v and 106 gti. It just depends which one you prefer, both handle well and are quick hatchbacks. Obviously people here are going to tell you to go for the clio. Handling is too hard to call but the 106 gti has a lose back end if provoked with lift off that can catch you out if youre unwary, but are meant to be the best handling hatchback you can buy. Ben H is right about the lack of torque though, you really have to rev them to get them going, but once on song are quick. Its not a bad thing though, as the TU engines in the 106 gtis are bullet proof!
BMW 535D
o yes
beaten a few of gtis twin car = the saxo vts. even stevens to 60 but then its all va va valver after that
ex Clio 172 owner :(
Im sure he means the Williams has the edge over the 106 whereas the 16v does not have the edge over the 106, therefore the Williams would have the edge over the 16v.
Igoring the performance side the 106 feels a bit more solid but is very cramped. I find driving the girlfriends VTS a very "feminine" experience. ie: it feels Girly as its soooo small. The pedals are trully a pain in the rse! The Clio is bigger and feels it but the interior feels a bit cheap (well cheaper than the 106).
