172 Dials

[3D CLIO]

Am looking to fit the 172 dial kit onto my mk 2 clio and just need final clarification that they will fit okay as spoke to the guy this avo can anyone clear this up for me cheers

 

[ebee]

would like the answer to this one as well... ive got a set of 172 dials sitting in my room.. going to have a go at changing the colours before puttin them in though..

 

[McBunny]

they look the same dont they ??

 

[David]

isnt the only difference that they go higher up on rpms etc? it will be giving u wrong read outs!? but i do think they will fit... unsure why u would do this..

 

[Gareth]

where did you get the 172 dials from? and how much? I NEED a set for my 172!

 

[Djw John]

Gaz PM 3dClio, he did an engine conversion and cant use them anymore so he might be selling them.

 

[Big Iain]

whats the difference?

 

[Gareth]

does anyone know if the dials carry the details of mileage etc, or do they just fit in and read it from the ECU? (i.e if you have a 172 MK2 with incorrect dials, with 30K on the clock, and then you go and buy a set of proper 172 MK2 dials from another 172 and put them straight in, would they work?

 

[ebee]

as far as I know, its stored in the ECU, the reason im changing them is that I got one of the very first facelifts and theres a certain element of styling missing lol... e.g. it still has the orange repeaters, the interior trim is diff, etc

the dials i got have the blue metallic surround round the dials...

 

[Gareth]

so the ones you have are from a cup?

 

[Gareth]

i sourced a 172 dialset for my 172 import for £100, just spoke to the guy and asked him how they would work, does the mileage come from the ECU or the clocks? he said that if i were to change the dial sets over i would get the mileage from the donor car?!? Hence i didnt order them. Does anyone know for definate if this is the case? (I personally think the info comes from the ECU and is not stored in the dialset)?

 

[Gareth]

anyone??

 

[ebee]

id assume itd be the ECU due to legal issues with clocking etc as it would be all to easy to replace the dials on a 172 thats done 500k with one just a few months old etc ??

ill try changing mine over as soon as I get a chance and let you know what the outcome is... and as for them coming from a cup, im not sure, i thought the dials where the same on 172s and CUPs also got a set of metal door handles ( interior ones ) at the same time if that identifies in anyway if its a 172 or cup ??

 

[ebee]

Quote: Originally posted by David on 20 September 2004

isnt the only difference that they go higher up on rpms etc? it will be giving u wrong read outs!? but i do think they will fit... unsure why u would do this..

they shouldnt give the wrong readout, although the rev range is different, when testing the dash according the dialogys, voltage X1 is applied to get Y 1rpm, voltage X2 is applied to get Y2 RPM etc, and its the same values across the model range, therefore the signal sent to a 1.2 dash saying 3000rpm / 65mph for example, would still show 3000rpm / 65mph on the 172 dash unit...

 

[edde]

The dash dials bit holds the milage so swopping will get the milage from the doner car.

Not sure about the readouts I think they will work ie 5k rpm will read 5k rpm on 172 or normal dash.

 

[Gareth]

Quote: Originally posted by edde on 21 September 2004


The dash dials bit holds the milage so swopping will get the milage from the doner car.

Not sure about the readouts I think they will work ie 5k rpm will read 5k rpm on 172 or normal dash.

i was on the phone to a guy today selling a set of 172 dials, i asked him about this and he basically said "uh, yeah this car has about the same mileage as your car, can i have you credit card number then?" uh, no thanks. Ding goes the phone down. !!??!!