172 lump in a 16v

[cat171]

i was just wondering if any one has attempted this,

i mean some of you have the williams/megane 2.0 thing going on, but what about a 172 conversion.

im just curious, im keeping my car as it is, i was just wondering if its been done, of any one has thought about it.

Or is it too much expense for not much more performance.

 

[White16valver]

Think the expense is a major off-putter!

 

[weight]

heard the lump is tall, and the weighting would be all wrong!

 

[Rasclart]

Yeah heard about the Lumop being too tall.

Plus if you get a decent running Willy Lump (150BHP standard). Cams, headwork, chip and sort the breathing out. Would be pushing 172 Power. Plus not a huge amount make the magical 172BHP.

Not sure how torque compares on the two lumps!!

 

[weight]

175nm on a willy, 200 on a 172

 

[jabba]

not worth it really just slap a GTT lump in, 200 ponies in no time

 

[weight]

haha! do you still get 35 mpg thou???????

 

[iPap]

This is where VW have an advantage, you can put a Mk4 lump in a MkI no problem what so ever. All the mounting positions are the same, excluding the stupidly big engines. I have a friend or two with VR6 MkI and and MkII golfs. These things are rapid, 55 MPH in first gear! And then theres the G60 lumps and the new MK4 Turbo jobbies!!! Such a choice... and what about Renault, exactly, bugger all! A 2 Litre conversion is you can source the engine!!!

b****cks really!

 

[jabba]

Quote: Originally posted by weight on 20 August 2003

haha! do you still get 35 mpg thou???????

yea if u drove it like a fairy

 

[weight]

Quote: Originally posted by jabba the slut on 20 August 2003

Quote: Originally posted by weight on 20 August 2003

haha! do you still get 35 mpg thou???????

yea if u drove it like a fairy



thats my point! i dont, and get above 30 mpg

 

[BenR]

Quote: Originally posted by nickyb121 on 20 August 2003


This is where VW have an advantage, you can put a Mk4 lump in a MkI no problem what so ever. All the mounting positions are the same, excluding the stupidly big engines. I have a friend or two with VR6 MkI and and MkII golfs. These things are rapid, 55 MPH in first gear! And then theres the G60 lumps and the new MK4 Turbo jobbies!!! Such a choice... and what about Renault, exactly, bugger all! A 2 Litre conversion is you can source the engine!!!

b****cks really!





Whinge!

Complain to Ren that you cant shove one of their V6s into a R5.......

Oh, and BTW, you can fit the new turbo F4Rs into any of the new cars, all clios use the same basic mountings.

 

[jabba]

Quote: Originally posted by weight on 20 August 2003

Quote: Originally posted by jabba the slut on 20 August 2003

Quote: Originally posted by weight on 20 August 2003

haha! do you still get 35 mpg thou???????

yea if u drove it like a fairy




thats my point! i dont, and get above 30 mpg

with 200 horse power??

 

[weight]

ok say a gtt with 150+ horses if it makes you happy!

 

[jabba]

Quote: Originally posted by weight on 20 August 2003


ok say a gtt with 150+ horses if it makes you happy!

much happier u could prob get close, but with 150bhp u would prob make 180 pound o torque at 2.5k ish which would whoop a 150bhp N/A engine which wont develop the peak power till far higher up the rev range

 

[McBunny]

haha i go 50mpg in my 172 lol

 

[weight]

Quote: Originally posted by jabba the slut on 20 August 2003

Quote: Originally posted by weight on 20 August 2003


ok say a gtt with 150+ horses if it makes you happy!

much happier u could prob get close, but with 150bhp u would prob make 180 pound o torque at 2.5k ish which would whoop a 150bhp N/A engine which wont develop the peak power till far higher up the rev range




you want a race or something!

infact santa pod in two weeks if your up for it???

 

[Tom]

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 20 August 2003

Oh, and BTW, you can fit the new turbo F4Rs into any of the new cars, all clios use the same basic mountings.

But can you fit the turbo gear to the 172 engine?

 

[BenR]

yes.

 

[Tom]

oooh

 

[BenR]

uh huh

 

[Tom]

Reckon its alot of work?

could you use std bits of the megane? (rs)

 

[BenR]

its alot of work yes, but sorting the elctronics is the nightmare.

 

[iPap]

Would the turbo lump go in the Mk1 clios?

 

[BenR]

you can answer that yourself, its the same answer as will the F4R engine fit.

Answer in the 3rd and 4th post

 

[jabba]

Quote: Originally posted by weight on 20 August 2003

Quote: Originally posted by jabba the slut on 20 August 2003

Quote: Originally posted by weight on 20 August 2003


ok say a gtt with 150+ horses if it makes you happy!

much happier u could prob get close, but with 150bhp u would prob make 180 pound o torque at 2.5k ish which would whoop a 150bhp N/A engine which wont develop the peak power till far higher up the rev range




you want a race or something!

infact santa pod in two weeks if your up for it???

doubt ill be ready in 2 weeks mate as i need to get it sorted so i dont blow up and embarras myself

but yea ill be up for a friendly quarter at some point

how much u weigh at the mo then?