182 Cams

[k_qaed]

What are the best CAMS for the 182?

Any thoughts?

 

[ben_p]

what other mods?

OEM ecu?

 

[k_qaed]

RIght now having the miltek exhaust ktec pannel filter and fastchip remaping.

Suggestions?

 

[ben_p]

CAT cam 428

 

[k_qaed]

Do I have to change the manifold also? I mean what can I do more?
Possible to tell me diffrence between them

 

[ben_p]

lol, how much do you have to spend? Cams plus fitting would be around £1000 + VAT

With the above mods inc 428s you will see about mid 190 HP, you could fit ITBs for around £4000 (inc mapping) That would see you 220hp

 

[172Ben]

can 428's be run on standard ecu, just with a remap?

 

[ben_p]

Yea dude

 

[172Ben]

Hmmmmm, might have to invest

are the 420's the same profile as standard? Any cams that do need a standalone?

Cheers mate.

 

[KungFuSpaghetti]

cams that need a standalone will usually foul the pistons, so you'd most likely need to pocket them, by which time you may as well stick some forged ones in it.

 

[k_qaed]

from where we can get these 428s?

 

[sideways danny]

Hmmmmm, might have to invest

are the 420's the same profile as standard? Any cams that do need a standalone?

Cheers mate.

420s are optimised standard spec, they only really exist for racing classes that require stock cams.

421s will cause problems with idle, on a ph1 172 this can be bodged round but with drive by wire throttle it will never idle right

428s will go straight in any 172/182

anything non standard needs mapping to get the best from it

 

[TooneySonic]

there are three well known options to run on the standard engine management with a remap

CAT CAMS 428's
schricks
collumbo & barrini (spelling?)

cant go wrong with any tbh all with give similar results (on ave 12bhp peak and around 20bhp more above 7200 through to 7800rpm)

 

[172Ben]

Would you say 428's are the best if just using standard managment and a remap?

 

[ben_p]

yes

 

[Cat Cams UK]

Hi K-qaed - we'd recommend 5502428's for use with the stock remapped ECU. They represent the limits of the lift and duration that are achievable with the 172/182 before the ECU struggles to control the idle. Even so, you'll have a very quick Clio post install!

 

[Bazzon]

Dont do anything till Matt releases http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=404848 which shud be very soon

 

[Kam.]

the 428s would be my recommendation.

we've got a few CatCams including the 428's in our ClioSport discount section. the 428's are £560 + delivery (inc Vat):
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/club-dis...2428-fast-road-camshafts-clio-mk2-rs-864.html

 

[k_qaed]

do I need these?
http://k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=2652

 

[Icarus]

do I need these?
http://k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=2652

Not for 428's.

Cheers
M

 

[k_qaed]

Is there something will give more than this 428?
What do I have change also?
You know since gonna change, why not go for the big one and thats it.
Which one can I go for, and what do I have to change?

 

[Toxic#66]

Think about stand alone fuel management. You should see better results with same setup.
I run 421 cams, I've done it against every voice on this forum
I do not regret it still working on the project thou.
Idle is in fact the issue (1250rpm on standard ECU). no problem in day to day driving (that's what I was afraid most) but than again mine is ph1 with cable throttle.
My advice do not go past the 428 point Unless You're up to what's coming and only with SA ECU

 

[Fred@BTM]

Colombo and Barini and my favouite - SCHRICK

 

[TooneySonic]

To go for wilder cams that schrick or 428's you will need a stand alone aftermarket ECU as the standard management is not capaple of running the idle with them. This will cost around 1k. On top of that to get the most out of the cams you shoulod fit high compression pistons too £££

Better off sticking to the "drop straight in" cams and have the car mapped to suit

 

[Toxic#66]

Thats right Tooney.

k qaed, by the time You'll finish setting up anything wilder that 428 You'll start looking for a turbo engine to swap Like in my case sweet megane r26 engine just waits till I gather around enough money

 

[k_qaed]

so your all saying just go for the 428 that would just be a replacement of my oem ones?

 

[TooneySonic]

yep, straight swap, and have the car remapped to suit the cams

 

[k_qaed]

I think i will go for that then ..
Later on, what can we do? any suggestions? just to keep in mind now for later on

 

[TooneySonic]

Something big is about to drop soon in the clio tuning world, watch this space

 

[k_qaed]

like what?!

 

[TooneySonic]

patience young skywalker, just hold fire on the cams save a bit more and in the coming weeks all will be revealed

 

[k_qaed]

haha I want to know now you got me curiuos ..

 

[Icarus]

Super 2000 type inlet manifold kit

The plenum is in fabrication today BTW so not long to wait now until you get to see pics ;-)

Cheers
M

 

[k_qaed]

Please let us informed by the updates

 

[R20 CWH]

http://k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=2350

are these 428s?