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182 vs. 200 for daily use
- Thread starter Patrick Bateman
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imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Chap wants to spend 5k ish not 10k
Clio Trophy
Aye, budget is basically whatever I can sell my Trophy for.
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
ah apologies missed that bit
Sunglasses_Ron
ClioSport Admin
I love my 200. It has cup suspension which can be a little hard but compared to my 182 which was on cooksport springs but the 200 is infinitely better to live with.
It's way way more refined inside as well.
If you do go for a 200 make sure it's got the 'right' seats in it :wink:
It's way way more refined inside as well.
If you do go for a 200 make sure it's got the 'right' seats in it :wink:
Really!?
Mine sits just above 3k..
Sitting at 75 for me is killer at around 3.5k, with the non-res scorpion, drones a lot at that rev range.
At 4k the droning stops.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Agreed. An amazing car.
Just not an amazing hot hatch.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
They're not the best cars for a daily, the 200. The 182 would be a better bet.
For everything else though, the 200 kills the 182. Coming from someone that's had both for six years plus, each.
For everything else though, the 200 kills the 182. Coming from someone that's had both for six years plus, each.
I have had a couple of 200s but fortunately I never needed to use them as a daily. Fuel economy is very bad, one averaged 30mpg and the other 24mpg, no idea why they were so different apart from my first one was a 2009 and the second was a 2012. Amazing cars to drive but I would never have wanted to use it for my daily commute.
I'd say save some cash and go for a well-sorted 182. Better on fuel, no common flat-spot (not that i'm aware of anyway), still has all the toys as standard (so long a you don't go for a Cup model), kangarooing shouldn't be as much as an issue (if at all) while the engine warms up. They just seem more suited to daily driving.
I personally prefer their smaller dimensions aswell and they are lighter. Obviously, they are also a bit older so you might have a few more little niggles. You can get small patches of rust on these but they seem to hold up very well in general. Certainly nothing like most German cars of similar vintage.
I personally prefer their smaller dimensions aswell and they are lighter. Obviously, they are also a bit older so you might have a few more little niggles. You can get small patches of rust on these but they seem to hold up very well in general. Certainly nothing like most German cars of similar vintage.
Clio Trophy
If I am to sell the Trophy, and it is still an if, I won't be stepping back into another 182. Would rather have a change.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
I'd definitely have a go in a 200.
RS Clio 182
If i had the choice of the two again - id go back to a mint 182. Its something i may do in the future still..
Fair enough. It seems like you've already made your mind up in that case.
The Clio 200's have really come down in price now and some can be had for an absolute bargain.
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
Why go from a clio to a newer clio?
Why not go to an r26?
Why not go to an r26?
Clio Trophy
It is something I'd consider for sure. Providing running costs aren't much worse.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
They're a LOT better on fuel than a 197/200 for a start.
Clio Trophy
Doesn't sound difficult unfortunately! I wish manufacturers would have 6th as a tall gear for cruising.
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
R26 engine swaps pay for themselves in a few years from the increased mpg.
...I'm sure.
Re the gearbox... If/when I need mine rebuilding, I'm really considering a longer sixth if it's possible.
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
that was always the mk3s appeal it was never compromised, the short 6th gear was s**t on the motorway but when you change at the shift light in 5th and it only drops about 300rpm then its fantastic when your pushing on!
RS Clio 182
Doesnt that tell you that the 200 was more made for the track than a daily - the short 6th gear where it only drops 300rpm from 5th - surely they couldve made that a lot longer! Also,the chassis feels more 'alive' than a 182 - if i have things in my 200 cabin,they move around a lot more (eg a pint of milk) then they did in my 182. It seems they went a bit more hardcore when making the 200 - its perfect for a weekend track/b-road toy - but for an everyday motorway/rush hour commuter,its very tiresome to drive imo.
I daily my 200, and I don't think it's a very good daily..
But I work early shift so I'm on the road at 5:30am and 2pm, and my route is 4 miles of town and a 5 mile windy B class road (almost a farm road).
If I were using the motorway and in traffic for my commute, I'm sure I'd hate the 200. Fortunately I'm not so I love it.
But I work early shift so I'm on the road at 5:30am and 2pm, and my route is 4 miles of town and a 5 mile windy B class road (almost a farm road).
If I were using the motorway and in traffic for my commute, I'm sure I'd hate the 200. Fortunately I'm not so I love it.
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Get a 200 'box, but it's marginal. Mine's still poo for economy.
When mine sh*ts itself, I'll be throwing an LSD in there. No brainer.
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
I thought the mk3 box only had one revision from the first 197s to the last 200s?
Isn't the only difference the longer sixth with 70 being 3.5krpm? If so, I've got that one
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Ah yeah, I forgot yours was an R27
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
Yeah, they only had the shorter box for a year and a half iirc. Changed in the last half of 2007. Which is my cars reg lol. Lucky
Jesus. Ten years ago lol
Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Yeah. Lol. It's strange to think that the earliest Mk3's are now over ten years old.
