182 vtec!!!

Liam@redmonkey · May 20, 2006

hi guys thought id boot my 182 today as only had it 3 days so been gentle till now and as soon as it hits 5000 its just like a vtec,alot faster than i thought it would be!!!

Fletcher · May 20, 2006

I haven't taken mine above 5000 revs yet

MRBILLYUK · May 20, 2006

Thats the 5k kick , lol

Alan · May 20, 2006

Ali's 172 vtecs lol

brisa4984 · May 20, 2006

5k is sexy isnt it

shaun_cliosport · May 20, 2006

ive heard once you hit the 5k kick thats when you get a smile on your face

brisa4984 · May 20, 2006

smile or poop.. coming from a 1.2 it used to be both..

Steve2004 · May 20, 2006

Yeah '5k kick', all 172/182s have it, a characteristic of the engine.

Lovely

Adam · May 21, 2006

yeah its second cam kicking in isnt it...
i dont think mine is every below 5k apart from when im stopping

Aust1n · May 21, 2006

Its the notorious 5k kick.. don't worry.. your not special.. lol.

Munson · May 21, 2006

It's a common misconception that its the "2nd cam" kicking in. The VVT system doesnt actually change the cam profile, it changes the timing. It isnt as sophisticated as the Honda system. Also, it doesnt advance the timing at 5000rpm, it's something silly like 1500rpm. I think it's basically to do with idle emissions.

The 5k kick is actually where the engine reaches its breathing sweet spot, so it's purely to do with gas flow efficiency rather than any mechanical intervention. This is how I remember it being explained by one of the tech boffins on here anyway

Either way, it is very nice, but not quite Honda i-VTEC nice :evil:

MarkCup · May 21, 2006

shaun_cliosport said:
ive heard once you hit the 5k kick thats when you get a smile on your face

You've heard?

Get out there and do it...that's what they're for...and a little spin round to the limiter (which is there to stop things turning ugly), even when new(ish) won't do it any harm whatsoever :evil:

I did with 300 miles on the clock, which was about 20 miles after delivery, and I've never looked back...I'm now on 61K, and it's a quick one

Laura · May 21, 2006

i thought sum1 had actually made a v-tec clio then

Fletcher · May 21, 2006

MarkCup said:
You've heard?

Get out there and do it...that's what they're for...and a little spin round to the limiter (which is there to stop things turning ugly), even when new(ish) won't do it any harm whatsoever :evil:

I did with 300 miles on the clock, which was about 20 miles after delivery, and I've never looked back...I'm now on 61K, and it's a quick one

Mark i don't think Shaun's got his 182 yet.

Rich · May 21, 2006

Everyones loves that 5K kick

182 sport · May 21, 2006

The 5 k kick is what its all about.If ive got 'new' passengers in my car,ill always give them the 5k kick. Usually just drop it into second get the revs to 4.5rpm and keep their for 10 seconds or so, Then just boot it into the limiter (for that n n noise). Guaranteed they will always start commenting on how fast the car is and start asking me questions saying they cant believe how quick it is.

tameracingdriver · May 21, 2006

Roy Munson said:
The 5k kick is actually where the engine reaches its breathing sweet spot, so it's purely to do with gas flow efficiency rather than any mechanical intervention.

Surely though if this is the case, the changeover would be more linear / smoother and less sudden than it seems to be?

182 sport · May 21, 2006

I understood that the 5k kick is from the car cumming on cam- this is due to the valve -that opens fully at 5k and gives the car full torque and power.the valve is variable so as soon as you drop to lower revs the valve closes down.

Phill1978 · May 21, 2006

get an rsport and love the 8000rpm kick.

btw my cup has NO kick at all ???? not even a little it pulls from really low revs to 7400 ? wonder if someone has slapped a silly superchip on it loads of torque though ?

Steve2004 · May 21, 2006

meggerman said:
get an rsport and love the 8000rpm kick.

Loads of people keep mentioning this r-sport chip thingy, where the heck can you get one from? Or at least find out more about it.

Gaz_ · May 21, 2006

http://www.bbperformancetuning.co.uk/Products/Default.asp?type=dept&DepartmentID=7968

its the same thing mate,

Thomss · May 21, 2006

Love that 5K push

donofkarma · May 21, 2006

Roy Munson said:
It's a common misconception that its the "2nd cam" kicking in. The VVT system doesnt actually change the cam profile, it changes the timing. It isnt as sophisticated as the Honda system. Also, it doesnt advance the timing at 5000rpm, it's something silly like 1500rpm. I think it's basically to do with idle emissions.

The 5k kick is actually where the engine reaches its breathing sweet spot, so it's purely to do with gas flow efficiency rather than any mechanical intervention. This is how I remember it being explained by one of the tech boffins on here anyway

Either way, it is very nice, but not quite Honda i-VTEC nice :evil:

I wondered why it came alive at 5k!

bunzee · May 21, 2006

182Taunton - what colour is yours mate, might have seen you about?

biojo · May 21, 2006

remove the accoustic valve , that stops the 5k kick wel makes it alot less noticable which i prefer

polarbert · May 21, 2006

182 sport said:
I understood that the 5k kick is from the car cumming on cam- this is due to the valve -that opens fully at 5k and gives the car full torque and power.the valve is variable so as soon as you drop to lower revs the valve closes down.

The car comes on cam at 1500rpm

SOHROB · May 22, 2006

tis nice but nothing like the v-tec kick

Floodie · May 22, 2006

never noticed my 5k kick thing... but bought the car with one of those Schips on it.. so who knows...

sh33n · May 22, 2006

I can feel the V-TEC at 6k a lot more than I felt the clio kick at 5k.

Alex_225 · May 22, 2006

I never thought much of the 5k kick you get from my 172 but its something I notice now I drive a Megane 225. Where the revs used to suddenly flick round to 6.5k rpm on my 172 the Megane pulls more consistently.

Its a nice feeling on the RS Clios!

Munday · May 22, 2006

Is it a 2nd Cam coming in or is the original cam just changing speed?

McBunny · May 22, 2006

its neither its just it comming on cam

Dan@SJM · May 22, 2006

my 172 changes engine note at 5200rpm.

Dan@SJM · May 22, 2006

sh33n said:
I can feel the V-TEC at 6k a lot more than I felt the clio kick at 5k.

thats the only reason its left that late, to give a kick. get an actuator and change it to 3krpm, this is proven to be the best place for the cam change over.

Munson · May 22, 2006

AFAIK the 5k kick is nothing do do with cam timing, and it definitely isnt the "2nd cam" since VVT doesnt use a second profile like i-VTEC does. Where are the tech geeks?

Dan@SJM · May 22, 2006

the cam changes timing at 1400rpm @ 800mb map. iirc it advances the cam timing by 16degrees(dont quote me for certainty on this figure)

sh33n · May 22, 2006

Danlp6 said:
thats the only reason its left that late, to give a kick. get an actuator and change it to 3krpm, this is proven to be the best place for the cam change over.

A K-Pro is on the list, but the list is already quite extensive! :evil:

Ali · May 22, 2006

sh33n said:
A K-Pro is on the list, but the list is already quite extensive! :evil:

Will let you know how ricks goes after K-pro.

he got a Spoon B pipe and back box last week.

Running about 248Bhp. lol

edde · May 22, 2006

Munday said:
Is it a 2nd Cam coming in or is the original cam just changing speed?

The VVt come on at 1.4k and disactivates at 6.5k its ensure the power does't drop off to much.
It only actiuvated though if the MAp is 800mbar or more (abut 75% throttle) and the oil temps over 60 or 65degrees.

peter182 · May 22, 2006

love it

182 vtec!!!

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