200 Paint fell off. f**k SAKE.

[Inequality Street]

Title says it all. I'm so f**king angry right now.

Pressure washing my car, and the f**king paint falls off. c***s.

Any idea on costing of a front end re-spray in RB?

Worth asking Renault why on a 4 year old car the paint falls off?

 

[Jack!]

You sure you were using the right nozzle? I have a nozzle that I'm pretty sure could strip paint on any car.

 

[ParisPeach]

Dont newish cars have a paint guarantee on them.?

 

[-J-]

Renault won't accept any responsibility, IIRC paint warranty is 3 years, plus damage is essentially self inflicted.

I wonder if you have caught a small stone clio with the jet and that's what's lifted the paint.

 

[Inequality Street]

It's only a 1400 pw too. Shitty Renault. Just called Colour Tone, body shout in Essex that I think Dawn used MagpieV6 they quoted £150 - £200.

 

[Scrooge]

£150-£200, for what exactly?

They quoted me £550 for fitting, painting and blending in a wing.

 

[JAMason]

Gutted for you pal! Jet washes are more hassle than they are worth. Iv seen this happen to loads of people and experienced it with my TT. Chances are, like -J- said, its a stone chip thats lifted the paint off. Get on the internet and google body shops in your area, then read reviews and pop in for a quote, chances are they can blend that in pretty easy!

Jack

 

[Gally]

Poor adhesion plus stone chip = that. It should not fall off. That should be paid for by Renault.

If you're confident and want to work for it you'll get that paid for eventually!

 

[Paprika123]

As Gally says, that should be rectified by Renault.

I had similar on my Audi and surprisingly didn't even have to put up a fight.

 

[GrahamS]

this has happened on 2 of my clios. On the boot lid on one and the rear 1/4 on the other. In fact on the 182 when it happened I remember laughing at how french it was. The jet washer is pathetic as well!

 

[-J-]

I'll be very surprised if that gets paid for, warranty T&C's are pretty much that same as who I work for.

Aside from that, it will beyond paint warranty.

The only way you MAY get a contribution is if you are the owner from new with FRSH and the annual bodywork checks having been carried out.

 

[Inequality Street]

Poor adhesion plus stone chip = that. It should not fall off. That should be paid for by Renault.

If you're confident and want to work for it you'll get that paid for eventually!

I don't have full Renault service history, 3 x Renault and 2 x 519. So I doubt they will pay. Still think I may give it a go, phone or walk into the show room?

 

[Inequality Street]

£150-£200, for what exactly?

They quoted me £550 for fitting, painting and blending in a wing.

I'm slowly reconsidering using him, I sent him some pictures by text and this was his response:

Don't look to bad, it will be around £80

 

[Gally]

For £80 he's smart repairing it on the car. It's gonna be s**t. You can't just lacquer local areas like a guy in his tent (hi Rich) it need done properly.

Anyway, check out the proper paintwork warranty in the service booklet then go into a proper dealer and have a warranty claim submitted whether they want to or not. As per Nissan it should be the manufacturer who makes the decision not the dealer alone.

I've had cars on 125k, over a decade old and more with zero paint falling off it!

 

[Inequality Street]

For £80 he's smart repairing it on the car. It's gonna be s**t. You can't just lacquer local areas like a guy in his tent (hi @Rich) it need done properly.

Anyway, check out the proper paintwork warranty in the service booklet then go into a proper dealer and have a warranty claim submitted whether they want to or not. As per Nissan it should be the manufacturer who makes the decision not the dealer alone.

I've had cars on 125k, over a decade old and more with zero paint falling off it!

I'll hnt out my booklets now. However I assume its a 3 year paint guarrenty? My car is a 59 plate - Could I realistically ask them to do that?

 

[Inequality Street]

3 year paint warranty. I'm still going to give it my best.

 

[Scrooge]

I'm slowly reconsidering using him, I sent him some pictures by text and this was his response:

Don't look to bad, it will be around £80

They seem to be recommended alot but I don't rate them as highly as others that's for sure

 

[Inequality Street]

Just spoke to a lovely bloke called Ian Porter who works for the business team at renault uk, he is getting a Manager to call me back from the right area, within the next 2 hours.

I have also visited another local body shop, called Supreme Motor Bodies Ltd in Wickford, he had a look at it and said he will take off and respray the bumper for £220.00. I didnt really like their vibe though.

 

[Simon@SprayShack]

Just make sure who ever does it, strips the bumper of the factory RB every where and a complete repaint, you dont want someone whos going to flat it, sand out + isolate that area , spray it in then relacquer. £300 - £500 +VAT removed and refitted would be realistic IMO..........

 

[Inequality Street]

Just make sure who ever does it, strips the bumper of the factory RB every where and a complete repaint, you dont want someone whos going to flat it, sand out + isolate that area , spray it in then relacquer. £300 - £500 +VAT removed and refitted would be realistic IMO..........

Hi Simon,

Just received this: 'That's not a smart repair as I don't do work like that I was trying to help you out. there's not point whatsoever to paint the bonnet wing maybe as I get my paint matched and don't need to do the wing unless necessary, I don't like putting paint on a nice car if it doesn't need it, but if you do want the front end done it will cost about £500-600 depending what's on it.'

Is this something SprayShacl could paint if it was posted over to you?

 

[Inequality Street]

After a long chat with a customer support manager, Christine Perkins (who was really nice tbf) Im booked in on Friday to my 'local' Renault approved body shop (Colchester, Faseko - Anyone know them?)

I explained that my first car was 12 years years old and the paint didn't fall off, so repaired FOC. She said that's a fair point and would also be gutted if it happened to her RS Twingo.

She kept asking if my Renault Corrosion checks were up to date, I have no idea what that is, I assume a check when they service the car? I just explained I had 3 x Renault stamps an 2 indi, on a 4 year old car she said that seems fine.

Fingers crossed!

 

[AlexW]

Hopefully it turns out well for you, ruins an otherwise mint car.

 

[SnapMonkey]

After a long chat with a customer support manager, Christine Perkins (who was really nice tbf) Im booked in on Friday to my 'local' Renault approved body shop (Colchester, Faseko - Anyone know them?)

I explained that my first car was 12 years years old and the paint didn't fall off, so repaired FOC. She said that's a fair point and would also be gutted if it happened to her RS Twingo.

She kept asking if my Renault Corrosion checks were up to date, I have no idea what that is, I assume a check when they service the car? I just explained I had 3 x Renault stamps an 2 indi, on a 4 year old car she said that seems fine.

Fingers crossed!

Explain to her that plastic bumpers do not corrode.

 

[Inequality Street]

Explain to her that plastic bumpers do not corrode.

That had crossed my mind, but I didn't say it on the phone. If they use corrosion checks to get out of it I'll certainly put that question to them

 

[GiT]

Get a place to measure the paint depth and see if it's had a repair done by the dealership before you took possession? If it has, it's had a substandard repair.

 

[Inequality Street]

Get a place to measure the paint depth and see if it's had a repair done by the dealership before you took possession? If it has, it's had a substandard repair.

Can you measure paint depth on plastic bits?
gally Detail Chris

 

[Scrooge]

Yes, but you need a rather expensive pdg compared to the normal ones.

 

[GiT]

I'm pretty sure they can - but it's specialist equipment. Whoever resprays it will need to key it back, that it'self should show a "repair".

 

[Inequality Street]

Yes, but you need a rather expensive pdg compared to the normal ones.

By that I assume none of the detailers on here will have one that can Never mind!

 

[Inequality Street]

 

[McGherkin]

Didn't someone else have a problem with this? IIRC I think it may have been Gorms

 

[Mr R.]

Didn't someone else have a problem with this? IIRC I think it may have been Gorms

You are correct.

Ended up giving the car back as Renault fcuked it up so much.

I thought it was a common thing with the paint on the 200s??

 

[Simon@SprayShack]

Its a bugger, it will no doubt have been repaired at the dealership from new, little knock on the car transporter usual BS that happens to so many new cars and is covered up. It boils my p*ss, its hardly a *new* car if its been repaired at some point.....alot of the factory painting processes are done "wet on wet", which really is a much better process as your not relying on scruffing & surface imperfections as your bond between paint finishes, so get your timings right and it gives superb adhesion between layers.

Its likely they will do a cheap spot repair & a lacquer blend, you'll be none the wiser, like they probably did before lol. Personally id be insisting on a full strip and spray, then Id be marking my bumper with something you can polish off(if needed), in a few choice areas, well away from the area in question taking photos of the said marks and then you'll be able to see whats been done when you pick it up.

Id also been insisting no bloody blends into the bonnet & wings (esp with RB)......you want a good matching paint as close as it was from the factory, the more they paint the more risk later down the line for it going south.

 

[bigrez]

Dude, sorry to hear it

Feel free to contact me via PM; I have a Lithuanian friend who paints mine and my friends cars in Lakeside. Thoroughly nice chap, approachable and fantastic paint finishes! Constantly working on high end repaints, typically Bentleys and the like.

Get just the bumper painted; I would not put aftermarket paint on an otherwise original car unless absolutely necessary!

BigRez

 

[Inequality Street]

Its a bugger, it will no doubt have been repaired at the dealership from new, little knock on the car transporter usual BS that happens to so many new cars and is covered up. It boils my p*ss, its hardly a *new* car if its been repaired at some point.....alot of the factory painting processes are done "wet on wet", which really is a much better process as your not relying on scruffing & surface imperfections as your bond between paint finishes, so get your timings right and it gives superb adhesion between layers.

Its likely they will do a cheap spot repair & a lacquer blend, you'll be none the wiser, like they probably did before lol. Personally id be insisting on a full strip and spray, then Id be marking my bumper with something you can polish off(if needed), in a few choice areas, well away from the area in question taking photos of the said marks and then you'll be able to see whats been done when you pick it up.

Id also been insisting no bloody blends into the bonnet & wings (esp with RB)......you want a good matching paint as close as it was from the factory, the more they paint the more risk later down the line for it going south.

Thats a really interesting read, thanks for you input Simon. Out of interest, if this was repaired at factory, I assume Renault will have a record of this somewhere. Could I not request that information? As I own the car, no finance etc, can they withhold that from me?

 

[Gally]

If it has been painted then that's still their issue as it's a brand new car.

In regards to the blends. I'm not sure how well these garages are at matching RB but ideally you would be painting the entire bumper after removing the old paint.

No one wants to paint areas of a car they don't have to. That's honesty there at least.

 

[MrDave]

Thats a really interesting read, thanks for you input Simon. Out of interest, if this was repaired at factory, I assume Renault will have a record of this somewhere. Could I not request that information? As I own the car, no finance etc, can they withhold that from me?

Yes they will have a record every car has a build history throughout the assembly process any repairs get stamped off and saved for traceability.

 

[Inequality Street]

If it has been painted then that's still their issue as it's a brand new car.

In regards to the blends. I'm not sure how well these garages are at matching RB but ideally you would be painting the entire bumper after removing the old paint.

No one wants to paint areas of a car they don't have to. That's honesty there at least.

59 Plate, so I can see them saying it's out of warranty tough luck. If they do I may step things up, Im a Paralegal by trade and have many Solicitor friends at work. May get them to do some letters for me if they say no.

Yes they will have a record every car has a build history throughout the assembly process any repairs get stamped off and saved for traceability.

I may request some info on the history of my car then. I bought it just over 2 years old I think, so hope they dont get funny about not buying it from Renault.

 

[MrDave]

I may request some info on the history of my car then. I bought it just over 2 years old I think, so hope they dont get funny about not buying it from Renault.

Doubt they will give you it but worth a shot.

 

[Detail Chris]

Ry unfortunately my positector is away for repair and I'm only left with my pd8 (metal only)
of the top
Of the top of my head I'm sure that corner had a local repair in it's past.