2006 Rs Clio...any definite facts

[Dyewitness]

going to see local dealer about a trophy today, any facts known about the 2006 model as if i get the trophy going to be around 3 years before i could change over again

 

[blink172]

Nothings going to be concrete for a few months, but expect around 200bhp, six speed, 1200-1300kgs, to go very well on a track, and it too rattle.

 

[Tom]

Comparison



2005

Engine
F4R 738
F4R 830

Power (ps @ rpm)
182 @ 6500
197 @ 7250

Max Torque(Nm @ tr/min)
200 @ 5250
210 @ 5500

Gearbox
JC5 (BVM5)
MT1 (BVM6)

Kmh/1000rpm(1/2/3/4/5/6)
8.6/14.2/20.1/25.8/33.4
8.4/13.6/17.9/22.0/25.0/30.5

Weight (kg)
1090
1250

Tyres
205/45R16
215/45R17

Cd
0.70
0.77

 

[Swervin_Mervin]

So 10bhp less per ton then.

Sounds great.

 

[Tom]

The gearing is improved and my bet its it will get reworked trophy suspension, dont forget this is the "172" of the new clio range.

Obviously there will be versions with more power/less weight

10/bhp tonne down it may be but its torque is improved

 

[Swervin_Mervin]

Best off waiting for the run-out model in 2010?

 

[Dyewitness]

Well got a price for the trophy from local monkeys so going to have a think over next few days

 

[Christopher]

im going to wait for the lighter, more powerful variant before i trade in. (2007?)

ill have mine in white too please.

--chris

 

[jonnyboy]

that weight cant be right, its only 50kgs lighter than the current megane? Doubt it

 

[Munson]

Quote: Originally posted by jonnyboy on 30 June 2005that weight cant be right, its only 50kgs lighter than the current megane? Doubt it


About the same as a CTR? Dont forget this car is bigger.The weight piles on once you start growing in 3 dimensions. The new Clio is no longer in its old class...it seems to be boxing in the next weight up now. Quite sad really.

Its nearly 200mm longer right? Ive said before now - it will not be any quicker than the current car. It will likely have CTR power, but with CTR weight its a moot point. The tiny hot hatch is lost for ever as far as Im concerned. Crumple zones and airbags have seen to it.

I dont doubt the next RS Clio will be a great car though. I just dont undertsand what class it will belong to. 1250kg is family hatch weight, not supermini. Cars are getting heavier and heavier with each new model. A hot hatch has put on 300kg in 10 years, thats 30% heavier.

 

[jonnyboy]

yep no doubt about that, renault dont seem to be able to put a foot wrong at the moment, I thnk they have made the clio bigger as the twingo is getting a uk release. Twingo 172 anyone??

 

[Tom]

There may be an RS twingo.

There was a bizzare concept with mega power, Hint?

 

[Munson]

On the topic of later versions with more power. Do we really expect RS to squeeze much more out of this lump in production trim without a blower?

 

[edde]

Quote: Originally posted by Roy Munson on 30 June 2005

On the topic of later versions with more power. Do we really expect RS to squeeze much more out of this lump in production trim without a blower?

Yep 215hp the engine been to in tests with other bits and pieces.

Maybe they will try two power hikes during the product life one to 210 another to 220hp.

 

[Fred@BTM]

Quote: Originally posted by edde on 30 June 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Roy Munson on 30 June 2005

On the topic of later versions with more power. Do we really expect RS to squeeze much more out of this lump in production trim without a blower?

Yep 215hp the engine been to in tests with other bits and pieces.

Maybe they will try two power hikes during the product life one to 210 another to 220hp.





remember the engine is STILL based upon the same F4R in the 172/182s

250+bhp is possible out of that engine NA!!!

 

[Loki]

all depends how much renault wana do to it but still a good throtlebodying wouldnt hurt and maby a turbo wouldnt go amiss and of course cant forget gotta get it fred low

 

[edde]

Quote: Originally posted by Fred2001Dynamic on 01 July 2005

Quote: Originally posted by edde on 30 June 2005

Quote: Originally posted by Roy Munson on 30 June 2005

On the topic of later versions with more power. Do we really expect RS to squeeze much more out of this lump in production trim without a blower?

Yep 215hp the engine been to in tests with other bits and pieces.

Maybe they will try two power hikes during the product life one to 210 another to 220hp.






remember the engine is STILL based upon the same F4R in the 172/182s

250+bhp is possible out of that engine NA!!!

Yep I know. However theres no way Renault will start getting that out of this engine IMO with warently. Before they push the engine to that level they will be changing either the whole engine for a new one or replacing most bits in the engine.

 

[Munson]

^^ thats what I meant. I did say production trim ergo warranty.

 

[skinner]

Any idea what the red line is going to be in each gear? I want to do some comparisons with the 182...

 

[edde]

Quote: Originally posted by skinner on 01 July 2005

Any idea what the red line is going to be in each gear? I want to do some comparisons with the 182...

Probably 7.4k. The difference isnt going to be huge its mid range the engine going to be better.

 

[jonnyboy]

Quote: Originally posted by Fred2001Dynamic on 01 July 2005
Quote: Originally posted by edde on 30 June 2005Quote: Originally posted by Roy Munson on 30 June 2005 On the topic of later versions with more power. Do we really expect RS to squeeze much more out of this lump in production trim without a blower? [/QUOTE]Yep 215hp the engine been to in tests with other bits and pieces.Maybe they will try two power hikes during the product life one to 210 another to 220hp.remember the engine is STILL based upon the same F4R in the 172/182s250+bhp is possible out of that engine NA!!![/QUOTE]


not when you have to warranty it for 3 years though