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6x9 waste of space!
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6x9s have long been known to be sh*te to anyone into their ICE IMHO. All you need are some really really good components and the sub.
The 6x9s distort as they are probably putting too much through them (or not enough power to cope with the volume that they are demanding).
6x9s are a good "gap fill" jack of all trades and some of them represent excellent VFM alternative to a decent system.
Oh and they are SO "Maxpower".
2015 Audi S3 Stage 3
right i learnt from this mistake back in the day
u either have 6x9s or subs not both
but!!
my mate has just bout the vibe square 6x9s and amped them with a vibe black box2
sounded okish (not to my standards) but i persuaded him to get components so he bought the vibe components with the tweeters built into the cone
some difference and those square 6x9s can kick!! not sub potential but the most damaging 6x9s ive heard!!
trying to persuade him now to amp the comps
USE THE SEARCH!!!!!!!
i hate 6x9s with a passion, have only heard one set that i was shocked with, they were the genesis 6x9 subs, mounted in their own custom enclosure, being run from a genesis profile 2 amp
these shocked me, as they were quite deep in terms of bass, and well controlled (a well set up system)
as for any 2/3/4 way 6x9s f**king burn them, thats all they are good for
Personally i dont see them to be as bad as everyone makes out.
I play golf and need to use my boot a lot for a number of reasons as well, i cannot put a sub/amp in the boot, so i went for some 6x9s - there clear, produce good bass and were relatively cheap. I dont understand the problem, sorry, i dont understand the problem people have with a set of speakers.
And as for them being MaxPower - thats bull sh*t, and im geussing your the kind of person who thinks big exhausts and alloys are maxpower too???
I agree if something is done in bad taste then it can be called MaxPower, but you cant call a set of 6x9s MaxPower.
rant over! lol!
_Tom
ClioSport Club Member
I had kicker 6x9s in my valver with a sub and they were wicked! Cant see why people hate them so much! Maybe if you just buy any old sh*te...........
4 doors are the way forward for systems though. You can have componants everywhere! Ive got to buy 4 mids for the super golf
I too dont see the problem with 6x9s.
yes i agree that with decent comps and amp and sub your system can sound good. In my set up i have DLS comps up front, some vibe 6x9s in stealth shelf (which makes a hell of a difference), a 12" pioneer sub, all amped up with genesis amps. The main problem with 6x9s is the way people set them up.
If you run them off the HU then they will sound sh*t when you try and put any volume through them. If you amp them, and dont do it right or use sh*t amps then again it will sound sh*t. With my system i have the 6x9s amped using a profile 4 amp and can adjust everything on the amp to make the them sound perfect, with bass, and mid range. I then have the fronts set up for a bit of mid range and treble, the sub is then amped up with a profile 1 which is an awesome sub amp i might add, and i have it set to loud speaker mode rather than pure bass mode, and my system is extremely loud, and extremely clear!
My 6x9s dont distort at all, and i dont have any problems with them at all.
Quote: Originally posted by Carl_RT on 04 February 2005
I play golf and need to use my boot a lot for a number of reasons as well, i cannot put a sub/amp in the boot yes you can, many times i have put my clubs in the boot whilst having a sub in there, make your own box, that way you still retain a modecom of spaceAnd as for them being MaxPower - thats bull sh*t, and im geussing your the kind of person who thinks big exhausts and alloys are maxpower too??? its not the fact that they are Max Poo-wer, its the fact that these speakers are only successful due to the press they get from Chav magazines like these, if it wasnt for MP, FC, Revs etc promoting 6x9s they wouldnt sell over 90% of the stock they doI agree if something is done in bad taste then it can be called MaxPower, but you cant call a set of 6x9s MaxPower in terms of sound quality, 6x9s are bad taste .rant over! lol!
Quote: Originally posted by Tom16v on 04 February 2005
I had kicked 6x9s in my valver with a sub and they were wicked! Cant see why people hate them so much! Maybe if you just buy any old sh*te...........4 doors are the way forward for systems though. You can have componants everywhere! Ive got to buy 4 mids for the super golf
tom, the best systems do not have components in the rear, no rear fill is required for the ideal set-up, yes, having 4 doors in an advantage as it makes installing some mid drivers a piece of piss, but as for having components all round, i personally, and a lot of others, feel that it destroys the sound staging in the car
have i made all answers clear enough?
Have you not seen how much space is left in the boot of a mk1 once a set of clubs goes in there!
I agree that compared to a sub/amp, 6x9s arent as good, but for what they supposed to do, they are good - but i still dont understand why people hate them so much - it cant just be slightly worse sound quality.
Is it because your afraid of being stereo typed. You;ve got 6x9s - Your a chave!
Grow up
carl - yes ive owned a mk1, still had a sub and 2 amps in there
not its not "slightly worse" sound quality, they are horrendous, ive not been in one car with 6x9s in that i can say ive enjoyed listening to the music being played
isnt that what people do with saxo drivers?? this world is full of stereo-types, sadly we just have to accept them, go to any sound off competition and have a look at the SQ competition cars, not one of them will have ANY 6x9s for one reason, they are poor quality
doesnt the term chav describe someone that cant afford to spend extra on quality, therefore gets the biggest cheapest tackiest things available? in car audio, 6x9s are just that, as are SPLx bass packages
Quote: Originally posted by mr sheep on 04 February 2005its common knowleadge that your ears listen to whats in front but hear from noise behind.therefore its essential that the quality is coming form the front speakers, so decent components are the answer.
CORRECT!!!
someone here knows something about audio, its a start
As ive already said my 6x9s ARE good quality for what i use them for. I dont go to sound offs so i dont need the biggest sound system.
My set up is designed to my personal likes, i like listening to my car as much as my music.
The points youve raised are correct - but some of them are of your opinion, not all 6x9s are shocking qaulity - my Infinitys are good, i have uprated front components and most people who get in my car are impressed with the qaulity.
I am not saying that 6x9s are better than a full set up with a sub/amp, im saying there good for what they are. And i believe that your opinions are based on bad experiences.
I apologise for my spelling as well - its been quite bad today! lol!
Carl
Ive got some Infinisty coaxials in the doors of my clio and thats it...Bryan will tell you what they are sincve he put them in there, lol
TYhinking at some point of upgarding to some 6.5" top of the range components run of a 2 channel amp...not suere if im gonna bother wiht a sub, im kinda lacking space to put it, lol
Quote: Originally posted by Carl_RT on 04 February 2005
As ive already said my 6x9s ARE good quality for what i use them for. I dont go to sound offs so i dont need the biggest sound system. My set up is designed to my personal likes, i like listening to my car as much as my music. The points youve raised are correct - but some of them are of your opinion, not all 6x9s are shocking qaulity - my Infinitys are good, i have uprated front components and most people who get in my car are impressed with the qaulity.I am not saying that 6x9s are better than a full set up with a sub/amp, im saying there good for what they are. And i believe that your opinions are based on bad experiences.Carl
im not going to erply anymore to try and advise the errors of your way, you think your set-up is good, that;s up to you, but replace the 6x9s with mid driver in the rear and youll hear a massive difference, no less, the suond coming from in front of you, the way its supposed to
as for bad experience, as someone who has been involved with ICE for over 5 years now, i think id learn a few things over time, this is nothing to do with my personal experience, its an industry opinion, any decent ICE shop will tell you the same thing (i said decent)
Quote: Originally posted by Lunner on 04 February 2005
Ive got some Infinisty coaxials in the doors of my clio and thats it...Bryan will tell you what they are sincve he put them in there, lol
TYhinking at some point of upgarding to some 6.5" top of the range components run of a 2 channel amp...not suere if im gonna bother wiht a sub, im kinda lacking space to put it, lol
they are infinity 552i co-axial, amazing budget speaker, only cost me £40, normally £80
if youre going to upgrade the speakers tom, you may also want to sound deaden the doors, as they are a wee bit flimsy to take any real mid mass without rattling to every beat
good thinking though, you listen to the fronts, so they should be the best part of the system
The Beast MK4
Most of the people I know have got them aswell. I tell them about the myth of the 6 by 9 but they just dont listen.
The Beast MK4
Sorry Bryan i misphrased. I meant the myth that the 6x9s are good.
Quote: Originally posted by Bryan on 04 February 2005
Quote: Originally posted by Lunner on 04 February 2005Ive got some Infinisty coaxials in the doors of my clio and thats it...Bryan will tell you what they are sincve he put them in there, lol
TYhinking at some point of upgarding to some 6.5" top of the range components run of a 2 channel amp...not suere if im gonna bother wiht a sub, im kinda lacking space to put it, lol
they are infinity 552i co-axial, amazing budget speaker, only cost me £40, normally £80
if youre going to upgrade the speakers tom, you may also want to sound deaden the doors, as they are a wee bit flimsy to take any real mid mass without rattling to every beat
good thinking though, you listen to the fronts, so they should be the best part of the system
But sound deadening means extra weight
Ah well, excuse for the headliner to come out, try to compensate ;-)
i dont like 6*9s.... ultimately they are not a speaker that is designed to produce bass. so if you try and turn the bass and volume up they will distort.
i have a friend who swears by his and turns them up loud all the time... it does my head in and gives me a headache!
with components and a sub you get the nice rounded bass and you can hear the mid and treble clearly. plus you dont need to turn it up loud to hear the music and bassline like you do when youre forcing a pair of 6x9s to bang out a heavy tune.
I listen to breaks and house so that may be why though. i guess happy hardcore or clubland vol 3 probably sounds quite good through6x9s
I had a set of 4-way 6x9s in my old car (with 12" Vibe sub) and they sounded pretty good to me. The front speakers were components, so thats something to do with it I expect.
I find the sound in the 182 to be a nice all round balance where as the 6x9s were overpowering from the rear so I had to fade the sound to the fronts. This gave me a good all round sound without the sound coming from primarily the rear.
Quote: Originally posted by Tigerhawk on 04 February 2005
its not the sub its the amp i think?http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=5&TopicID=139331&PagePosition=1http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=5&TopicID=139331&PagePosition=1
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