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A good top up wax on a budget?
- Thread starter KyL3
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Im new to this mate so whats a QD? Yeah 6months if it has a good coating which im sure it will
Coby.
ClioSport Club Member
XC60-R.......V40-R
QD - Quick Detailer
Once a good Wax/Sealant is applied you can get away with just washing, drying and misting a QD on as a final wipe over, This should keep the finish you want without effecting the performance of the wax.
You getting it done by a professional? I'd ask them for some tips on aftercare, They'll always be willing to offer advice and tips, May even sell you some bits and pieces.
Once a good Wax/Sealant is applied you can get away with just washing, drying and misting a QD on as a final wipe over, This should keep the finish you want without effecting the performance of the wax.
You getting it done by a professional? I'd ask them for some tips on aftercare, They'll always be willing to offer advice and tips, May even sell you some bits and pieces.
Yeah getting done by a professional so I can always have a word with him see what he says to keep it maintaned
Should I apply a sealent on top if the swissvax then?
After a couple of months i would say use a sealant like carpro reload on top of the CR
Okay gotcha, a good layer of CR says about 6months of protection so need to worry for a while?
Haha you no gallyAgreed Kyle. Even with the CR expense it's still an old school wax. Waxes are for long summer nights.
Waxing all day long for summer
CR will lose a lot of its performance after 2-3 months. The finish is flawless even after 3 shampoos with non gloss enhancing it still looks ace
Im going to see how long i can get out of CR without adding any top ups lol
Okay so you reckon after 2months add a sealent on top? Yeah reviews seem pretty good on the CR 2bh
Best thing to do is keep an eye on it. If it looks like its losing performance use DDJ BTBM shampoo as its very wax friendly and let it run its course. That will rejuvenate it
Bluebeard
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
f**k off gally.
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
Another vote for Sonax brilliant shine detailer as a top up/final wipe down.
And invest in a pure shampoo, I.e. One that doesn't have any gloss enhancers or any of its own protection which will interfere with your lsp
And invest in a pure shampoo, I.e. One that doesn't have any gloss enhancers or any of its own protection which will interfere with your lsp
Golf GT & A4 Avant
Don't take this the wrong way but you come across as not being that clued up with detailing and products. And you are probably paying a premium for having crystal rock applied to your car? Also having such an extravagant wax used on anything other than a perfect finish seems a little bit a waste, so using it after a general enhancement detail I'm not sure is worth it. Spend the money on the correction and get a true finish and the wax or sealant will add minimal gains.
It's not the type of wax that your top up as such as what ever you put over the top will be an inferior product and will alter the waxes appearance and water behaviour. As suggested use a bare shampoo with no wax or gloss enhancers, and periodically use a quick detailer spray after routine washing to help cleanse the surface.
Me personally would probable opt for a more run of the mill wax or sealant with good durability and save yourself some money and put that towards your own products to further maintain the car.
It's not the type of wax that your top up as such as what ever you put over the top will be an inferior product and will alter the waxes appearance and water behaviour. As suggested use a bare shampoo with no wax or gloss enhancers, and periodically use a quick detailer spray after routine washing to help cleanse the surface.
Me personally would probable opt for a more run of the mill wax or sealant with good durability and save yourself some money and put that towards your own products to further maintain the car.
I know the guy personally and his work is very good, so that I am not to worried about. The price is also very fair after ringing around for weeks asking for a machine polish + enhancement detail. But you are right once I get the car back I really dont have a clue how to maintain it. So basically get a bare shampoo and QD to keep it maintained afterwards? You seem to know your stuff.
Golf GT & A4 Avant
What products and kit do you have already to maintain the car? 2 bucket wash method, lambs wool wash mitt, microfibre drying towel?
For routine maintenance look into a wax safe pre wash, something like autofinesse citrus power or valet pro citrus pre wash. A bare natural shampoo like dodojuice born to be mild or autofinesse lather. For wipe downs and as a drying aid a basic quick detailer like zaino z6 or britemax spray and shine
I'd still personally opt for something cheaper that you can top or reapply yourself. See what other wax and sealants he can offer that are a lot cheaper and more user and beginner friendly
For routine maintenance look into a wax safe pre wash, something like autofinesse citrus power or valet pro citrus pre wash. A bare natural shampoo like dodojuice born to be mild or autofinesse lather. For wipe downs and as a drying aid a basic quick detailer like zaino z6 or britemax spray and shine
I'd still personally opt for something cheaper that you can top or reapply yourself. See what other wax and sealants he can offer that are a lot cheaper and more user and beginner friendly
Yeah I have the 2 bucket wash method, lambs wool wash mitt, and I have some decent washing products which I will list when im back. Only thing I dont have Is a pure shampoo and QD 2bh with you. Well he is layering the car with CR for an extra £25 other people quoted me £50 I dno what you think of that?
Golf GT & A4 Avant
I'm sure you're aware it's a very expensive wax, so not a huge amount to pay for the extra. But that would almost pay for zaino Z2 sealant (Z5 if it's a darker colour) and Zaino Z6 quick detailer
http://i4detailing.co.uk/shop/zaino-car-care-and-detailing-products.html
http://i4detailing.co.uk/shop/zaino-car-care-and-detailing-products.html
Yeah I have seen how expensive it is, thats why I thought it wasnt to bad, if I went ahead with the CR would the Z2 and Z6 then help to maintain after washing?
I'll go against the grain and say to the OP. Don't be so caught up and worried about what wax is being used, but instead focus on what techniques the detailer is using to correct/enhance your paintwork. Far too often the products and techniques used to actually remove defects is overlooked in the hope that a fancy wax will cure everything and is the be all and end all. Much the same with bodywork/spraying, the key i the prep, the lacquer just seals in all the hard work. Very much the same with wax/sealant. Sure the oils/acrylics in them may make a marginal difference but I wouldn't say so much so that a ridiculously expensive wax is anything to worry about. I'd give £50 to anyone who could genuinely tell the difference between a car wearing Crystal Rock as opposed to one wearing Auto Finesse Temptation (£25 and a very capable wax!) if the car was the same and prep was identical.
Did you even read that before hitting post?
Yes I did read the question, and although I didn't give a specific recommendation on what product to use to maintain the finish, I was merely trying to say to the OP to not worry too much about price and hype when choosing something to maintain it with. Which is why I mentioned Temptation as if you used this as a maintenance wax it would be very hard to notice the difference if the car has been prepped properly, which is also why I explained that prep work is key to maintaining the finish, not necessarily the wax itself.
But it's going to be professionally detailed, the prep work is already there and guaranteed (you'd hope). The LSP then makes a massive difference hence this thread.
I know, I didn't mean it to start a debate, just thought I'd offer a bit of background before the OP decided on an LSP as I'm sure you know and so do I that it's easy to fall into the trap of "That product cost £xx" so it must be incredible. To me (and it seems also to you going by some of your answers in other threads) LSP will not make a monumental difference to the look of the car if it has undergone professional prep work. Anyways. If it was me I'd be topping it up with a Carnauba based QD such as Finale.
Golf GT & A4 Avant
Zaino Z2 is a stand alone sealant, a replacement for wax. I was suggesting using Z2 instead of crystal rock as it can be topped up with many layersor quick detailers or even a wax as Kyle86 has already mentioned.
I was suggesting save your money and not pay for crystal rock, instead spen the money on some good performing products that will help you maintain and keep the look of the car. It's your money at the end of the day if you want to spend that extra, but you're notany real benfit from it being used other than bragging rights.
I was suggesting save your money and not pay for crystal rock, instead spen the money on some good performing products that will help you maintain and keep the look of the car. It's your money at the end of the day if you want to spend that extra, but you're notany real benfit from it being used other than bragging rights.
Also not sure how other feel but I've always read/been told to layer a wax over a sealant, as a true sealant won't bond properly ontop of a wax, so putting sealant over CR *could* be a bit of a waste maybe?. Basically OP if you want longevity through the winter, maybe ask your detailer to lay down a solid sealant as an LSP and then top up with one of the mentioned products?
Depends what type of sealant it is. Z2 under wax, reload 2014 over wax if you so wish.
Tbf you could use Reload under a wax also! No hard rules in detailing imo. Experimenting is the fun. Personally i'd want Z2 base and shield through the winter if he's desperate for wax.
Tbf you could use Reload under a wax also! No hard rules in detailing imo. Experimenting is the fun. Personally i'd want Z2 base and shield through the winter if he's desperate for wax.
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