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All new Mk5 Renault Clio



CrippsCorner

ClioSport Club Member
  Mini Cooper S
Is this place going to be renamed zoesport then?

Clio looks okay I suppose but then I never really liked the Mk4!
 

massivewangers

ClioSport Club Member
  Several
I wouldn't worry too much about the 1.3. M-Sport are getting 200bhp from the 1.0-litre EcoBoost now. I would think the 1.3 Renault engine could be quite fruity in competition form.
 

Ricardos

ClioSport Club Member
  LY 200 EDC
I wouldn't worry too much about the 1.3. M-Sport are getting 200bhp from the 1.0-litre EcoBoost now. I would think the 1.3 Renault engine could be quite fruity in competition form.
They offer a 1.3 160 TCE in the Scenic and Kadjar already, which thinking about it now why it didn't make its way into the Clio RS Line.... There's rumours of 180hp, amongst loads of other rumours of will there won't there be another outright RS model... We will see.
 

Andy P

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 172, Clio 220 T
RS line. f**king hell. RS is now just a trim level. What a shower of shite Renault have become.
It's similar to what Ford have done with the ST Line and other car manufacturers have also done.
 

Matthew

ClioSport Club Member
It's similar to what Ford have done with the ST Line and other car manufacturers have also done.
Atleast the other manufacturers have a ‘line’ but also the actual car to buy. S Line (S3/4 etc) Renault dropped a bollock with the Mk4 RS and most new they wouldn’t recover from that - and that has now been proved right. Most people have gone to another marque for performance motoring, as they’ve had to. I’ve have 5 or 6 182s and is never consider a new one these days.
 

Greeny.

ClioSport Club Member
Atleast the other manufacturers have a ‘line’ but also the actual car to buy. S Line (S3/4 etc) Renault dropped a bollock with the Mk4 RS and most new they wouldn’t recover from that - and that has now been proved right. Most people have gone to another marque for performance motoring, as they’ve had to. I’ve have 5 or 6 182s and is never consider a new one these days.
This is 100% correct from my point of view
 
The main reason we won't have a quick Clio is due to CO2 taxes on new vehicles in France - this article/graphic on the ICCT website is a couple of years old now, and the charges have increased / are going to increase even further, but you can see how a vehicle with even just 180g CO2/km is already hit with a massive tax on it:


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We'll ignore the fact that CO2 is food for plants, and that the main driver of any changes in the climate is the sun instead of human activity...
 

Andy P

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio 172, Clio 220 T
Atleast the other manufacturers have a ‘line’ but also the actual car to buy. S Line (S3/4 etc) Renault dropped a bollock with the Mk4 RS and most new they wouldn’t recover from that - and that has now been proved right. Most people have gone to another marque for performance motoring, as they’ve had to. I’ve have 5 or 6 182s and is never consider a new one these days.
Fair comment, I have owned a 220 Trophy for the last 11 months and absolutely love it. I also have a 172 and know hands down which one I would choose all day long. Both two different cars to drive but both equally fun. I also believe too many people jumped on the bandwagon with the MK 4 without even driving it.
 

Martin_172

ClioSport Club Member
  182 Converted Van
Fair comment, I have owned a 220 Trophy for the last 11 months and absolutely love it. I also have a 172 and know hands down which one I would choose all day long. Both two different cars to drive but both equally fun. I also believe too many people jumped on the bandwagon with the MK 4 without even driving it.
couldn't have put it better myself, if I had the choice of my 220 trophy vs my 200 cup, 182 trophy, ph1 172 etc etc id take the 220 trophy every day doesn't matter if it was a B road blast, track day, commute to work, motorway cruise, doesn't mean the previous cars were bad, they were fanstastic but the game moved on with the 220!
 

Ricardos

ClioSport Club Member
  LY 200 EDC
I'd happily admit the gearbox in the 200 wasn't the greatest but a massive step forward. The Mk4 was a big step in tech coupled with a great chassis, the gearbox takes weeks getting used to not a quick 10 minute blast up and down the road with a salesman on a test drive. They revised the software on the 220 which made the gearbox night and day better, a much more pleasant experience when pushing on, thankfully the software was available for all the 200 EDC owners and being on their Mk4 Facebook group the people who've had it done at Renault have commended it for the big change in how it changes gear much quicker, gear change prediction, smoother changes.
 

massivewangers

ClioSport Club Member
  Several
I think the big problem was, no matter how good the car was, the fact it was only available as an auto was always going to upset the purists, especially in the UK. When all the previous models were seen as the purist, racy driving experience, an auto was always going to be controversial.

I actually considered a 200EDC for a rally car if you could get a cheap one and upgrade the gearbox software, but they are more expensive than some of the other options. A shame, I thought it would be a fun little car, especially if you could get a shorter final drive in the box.
 

Ricardos

ClioSport Club Member
  LY 200 EDC
After reading that back about the gearbox what I meant was it was great to use, made better by having the 220 software installed on my old 200 EDC. The 220 paddles are better too, less throw on the click when gear changing.
 


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