Anyone had a manifold match?

[mccabe172]

Has anyone had a manifold match by Angel works?

These guys are quoting a 15 bhp gain from match and remap.

 

[markfarrell75]

Is this the plenum mod as Im after doing the same?

 

[mccabe172]

In all honesty mate I m not too sure this is the guys I got recommended and I ve entered into email coversation with them http://www.angel-works.co.uk/

 

[RSTuning]

Ben knows his s**t mate, come see us when you need the remap to suit

Cheers

Paul

 

[clidge]

which is better angel works or hill power or are they both the same??????

 

[franx]

Ben is a god on the machines from what i heard....

having mine done soon :lolup:

the only thing is that i recently had a group N ecu change done, and this will not be able to be custom made (to be readjusted ) for optimal performance with the manifold ..
Really disapointed, the guy who sold me this (Holland) said this would'nt be a problem and now it appears it IS

Do'nt feel like spending another 275 (or so) for a custom so i'm gonna have a chat with him and see if he will do it anyway for only the hour-wage. The info on the group N was wrong so i can expect a little service

 

[MrStabby]

Someone on here is runing a matched plenum and GroupN with no problem. Obviously ideal is custom map, basically adjusting AFR. I have a GroupN and im going to have my plenum matched by Ben!

 

[franx]

Someone on here is runing a matched plenum and GroupN with no problem. Obviously ideal is custom map, basically adjusting AFR. I have a GroupN and im going to have my plenum matched by Ben!

Air to Fuel Ratio, yep...

What's the "plenum" part ? Is it actually 2 pieces that need to be worked on when matching ?

 

[Black_clio]

Has anyone had a manifold match by Angel works?

These guys are quoting a 15 bhp gain from match and remap.

yep best mod u can do failin de-cat!

Re-flashin ecu will obviously give even better improvement but pretty pointless till you've done something more than just ported inlet mani

 

[Black_clio]

15bhp improvement??? must have been a really sh1tty castin then!!!

 

[BenR]

that sums up about all of the renault sport castings.

 

[Gaz_]

i have a grp n, and matched inlets by ben, HIGHLY reccomended, it pulls past all (probably standard mind) 172/182's i've come accross

 

[jayxx83]

Does it get rid of the dead spot around 4k?

 

[oneeighttwo]

Do it.. mine was done by Ben along with some other work done by GDI. Highly recommended in my book.

 

[ChrisR]

Which part is it that gets done, the manifold (the smaller bit) or the big top plenum thing?

Only ask as I've got more chance of picking up a manifold (as they fit all 172s and 182s right?) than a plenum for a mk1 (as the plenums are all different?).

 

[MrStabby]

Both parts get matched, even better to get the mani to the block done.

 

[edde]

Which part is it that gets done, the manifold (the smaller bit) or the big top plenum thing?

Only ask as I've got more chance of picking up a manifold (as they fit all 172s and 182s right?) than a plenum for a mk1 (as the plenums are all different?).

The lower bits are the samer the upper there to different types the phase 1 172 uses one the res use the other and there none swopable.

 

[mccabe172]

Wow this aint half confusing!!

Will getting manifold effect mods in future? (excluding ecu)

To be honest not wanting to go crazy like fast and furious just want the Q car looks to scare bigger cars than cost more. Complete wee pocket rocket.

 

[ChrisR]

Which part is it that gets done, the manifold (the smaller bit) or the big top plenum thing?

Only ask as I've got more chance of picking up a manifold (as they fit all 172s and 182s right?) than a plenum for a mk1 (as the plenums are all different?).

The lower bits are the samer the upper there to different types the phase 1 172 uses one the res use the other and there none swopable.

Hmm what I thought, so me getting hold of another lower bit isn't going to help as my plenum will need doing as well :/

 

[edde]

Will getting manifold effect mods in future? (excluding ecu)

It helps reduce restriction so it won't have any negative power effects.

The lower bits are the samer the upper there to different types the phase 1 172 uses one the res use the other and there none swopable.

Hmm what I thought, so me getting hold of another lower bit isn't going to help as my plenum will need doing as well :/

Yep the top and bottom bits need doing the bottom doesn't need much work the top is the one where time needs spending. BenR etc often have a exchange set so he sells your his for a price and you get so much of the money back when you send your old one back. Least then the garage etc who swop them can do it quicky and you can be back driving instead of talking it off sending to Ben for the work and your stuck without a car which works.

 

[ChrisR]

yeah I was hoping to get the parts cheaper than the exchange price But getting hold of the plenum is going to be tricky I think. Idea was to have the standard parts for when I sell, then can sell the matched ones seperately, might not bother and just get it done though

 

[mccabe172]

Definately considering this manifold match and my 29k 172 engine seems to be very fresh and powerful as standard. Hmmmm

Do you tell insurance bods though?

 

[fUbAr]

Do you tell insurance bods though?

no.

all you're doing it machining the manifold to what it should have been like from Renault. You're not actually modifying the engine, just correcting it! Plus there's little chance of them knowing the work's been done.

 

[edde]

Definately considering this manifold match and my 29k 172 engine seems to be very fresh and powerful as standard. Hmmmm

Do you tell insurance bods though?

If the insurance ever take it off they can tell its been modified and they don't like payoing out so if they cna invalidate the policy they will.

 

[BenR]

majority of the work is on the lower part, not the upper.

phs 1 and 2 172 and 182 plenums are all diff.

 

[DARKO]

Price for the upper/plenum please? Do you still chop them to get inside then re weld?

 

[Ali]

Your NEVA getting 15bhp! But you will see an improvement, not only in performance, but smoothness and idle. I got 16bhp from Inlets, maxogen, decat, zorst and remap...And mines not shy.

 

[Neil G]

This mod sounds good....I will get round to doing it one day when I can afford the remap as well

 

[John D]

Your NEVA getting 15bhp! But you will see an improvement, not only in performance, but smoothness and idle. I got 16bhp from Inlets, maxogen, decat, zorst and remap...And mines not shy.

Getting seriously tempted to go this route myself. Mine would be the same apart from sports-cat instead of decat (I already have that along with cat back exhaust).

Thing is I'm not paying full price for a maxogen so it depends on a second-hand one coming along...

Ali - does the maxogen make a difference in terms of noise?

 

[Ali]

Your NEVA getting 15bhp! But you will see an improvement, not only in performance, but smoothness and idle. I got 16bhp from Inlets, maxogen, decat, zorst and remap...And mines not shy.

Getting seriously tempted to go this route myself. Mine would be the same apart from sports-cat instead of decat (I already have that along with cat back exhaust).

Thing is I'm not paying full price for a maxogen so it depends on a second-hand one coming along...

Ali - does the maxogen make a difference in terms of noise?

Not really. Not really worth it either. Std airbox is sufficient.

 

[John D]

Getting seriously tempted to go this route myself. Mine would be the same apart from sports-cat instead of decat (I already have that along with cat back exhaust).

Thing is I'm not paying full price for a maxogen so it depends on a second-hand one coming along...

Ali - does the maxogen make a difference in terms of noise?

Not really. Not really worth it either. Std airbox is sufficient.

Is that true? Hmmm....I thought the maxogen was the shizzle. No way am I paying full whack :nono: But for £200 - worth it?

 

[franx]

one thing i've learned here on the forum is that you almost CANNOT beat the standerd filterhouse (with maybe ITG panel inthere)...

I took my superdupercarboninductionmega-airfilter OFF and the car responds much better on little throttle

 

[John D]

one thing i've learned here on the forum is that you almost CANNOT beat the standerd filterhouse (with maybe ITG panel inthere)...

I took my superdupercarboninductionmega-airfilter OFF and the car responds much better on little throttle

As a rule that is correct. I have an ITG panel currently

But from what I've heard the Maxogen does actually work (bloody should with that price tag!), particularly if the cars mapped to suit. So I am tempted to get one to make the most of other mods. I'm quite happy to stand corrected if Ali thinks otherwise though!

 

[BenR]

Your NEVA getting 15bhp! But you will see an improvement, not only in performance, but smoothness and idle. I got 16bhp from Inlets, maxogen, decat, zorst and remap...And mines not shy.

seen 13 with just inlet on stock engine no remap.

It did have a viper and exhaust on with nothing else before though.

 

[Fred@BTM]

and a tonka toy rolling road

 

[BenR]

just because you guys are all rubbish.

 

[Fred@BTM]

i know, i know!

 

[DH_GTI]

ben did u sort out a remap to suit the inlets ??? you said u were looking into doing one ages ago ??

 

[BenR]

yes, it will be released in the new year.

 

[DH_GTI]

sounds good !!