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aparantly there is going to be a blu-ray price drop !!!
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rich[182]
All this next gen stuff is overhyped bollox imho
I've seen a demo where a £60 Toshiba dvd player with upsampling technology & HDMI output to one of Sony LCD 40" screens produced same picture quality to HD-DVD on same screen, that was comparing a normal dvd title with a HD-DVD demo source, the country is going HD mad
I've seen a demo where a £60 Toshiba dvd player with upsampling technology & HDMI output to one of Sony LCD 40" screens produced same picture quality to HD-DVD on same screen, that was comparing a normal dvd title with a HD-DVD demo source, the country is going HD mad
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Agreed.
If BR was superior then maybe, but as you mentioned earlier, its a tad behind so double the price is obsurd.
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rich[182];2199566 said:
LMAO!
With Respect Rich. There must have been something wrong.
HD wipes the floor with DVD, especially on a large screen.
BMW M4; S1000 RR
I don't think they'll be around in 2008 
technically it is a better product, its using blu lasers though which are VERY hard to come by at the moment so thats why they are costing so much, hence why PS3 has been delayed and why Sony make a loss on every PS3 they sell.
Obviously it will come down in price but it has massive backing from the film studios, more than HD-DVD does so i'm sure the quality of the films coming out will surpass the quality of HD-DVD and also because of the size of the disc they will be able to get the extras on too rather than needing a second disc. The cost of Blu-ray DVD's seems to be less than HD-DVD at the moment too.
Blu-ray is unlikely to fail with the backing it has IMO.
really, didn't think they were, so why is PS3 having problems wheras the HD-DVD addon for the xbox isn't?
rubbish, thought you knew everything!that i dunno
So here's the technical nitty gritty before we drop the graphs n' charts on ya. Both systems use the same kind of 405nm wavelength blue-violet laser, but their optics differ in two ways. Since the Blu-ray disc has a tighter track pitch (the single thread of data that spirals from the inside of the disc all the way out-think grooves on a 12-inch vinyl single vs. an Elvis Costello full-length album), it can hold more pits (those microscopic 0s and 1s) on the same size disc as HD DVD even with a laser of the same wavelength.
The differing track pitch of the Blu-ray disc makes its pickup apertures differ, however - 0.65 for HD DVD vs. 0.85 for Blu-ray - thus also making the two pickups technically incompatible despite using lasers of the same type. HD DVD discs also have a different surface layer (the clear plastic layer on the surface of the data - what you get fingerprints and scratches on) from Blu-ray discs. HD DVD use a 0.6 mm-thick surface layer, the same as DVD, while Blu-ray has a much smaller 0.1mm layer to help enable the laser to focus with that 0.85 aperture.
Herein lies the issues associated with the higher cost of Blu-ray discs. This thinner surface layer is what makes the discs cost more; because Blu-ray discs do not share the same surface layer thickness of DVDs, costly production facilities must be modified or replaced in order to produce the discs. A special hard coating must also be applied to Blu-ray discs, so their surface is sufficiently resilient enough to protect the data a mere 0.1mm beneath - this also drives the cost up. The added benefit of keeping the data layer closer to the surface, however, is more room for extra layers.
Lifted from:
http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
The differing track pitch of the Blu-ray disc makes its pickup apertures differ, however - 0.65 for HD DVD vs. 0.85 for Blu-ray - thus also making the two pickups technically incompatible despite using lasers of the same type. HD DVD discs also have a different surface layer (the clear plastic layer on the surface of the data - what you get fingerprints and scratches on) from Blu-ray discs. HD DVD use a 0.6 mm-thick surface layer, the same as DVD, while Blu-ray has a much smaller 0.1mm layer to help enable the laser to focus with that 0.85 aperture.
Herein lies the issues associated with the higher cost of Blu-ray discs. This thinner surface layer is what makes the discs cost more; because Blu-ray discs do not share the same surface layer thickness of DVDs, costly production facilities must be modified or replaced in order to produce the discs. A special hard coating must also be applied to Blu-ray discs, so their surface is sufficiently resilient enough to protect the data a mere 0.1mm beneath - this also drives the cost up. The added benefit of keeping the data layer closer to the surface, however, is more room for extra layers.
Lifted from:
http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/19/blu-ray-vs-hd-dvd-state-of-the-s-union-s-division/
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There are also a lot of studios that arn't backing up Blu Ray at present, namely Sony Pictures (aka Columbia) main rivals. Why do companies have to do their own format within a format? It happened with Betamax vs VHS with Sony, the main supporter of Beta losing out, then all the customers who bought Beta lost out. Only time will tell with Blu Ray...
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thanks for that, very interesting, but doesn't explain why blu-ray discs are cheaper to buy than hd-dvd though, tking play.com and their rrp's as an example, the hd-dvd's seem to have a 19.99 price whereas the blu-ray are 17.99.
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I said Sony Pictures main rivals! There are some studios that are refusing to back Blu Ray, but I am not sure which ones. There is a difinitive list of who is supporting it on Sony's web site;
Apart from Sony themselves (which I assume includes Columbia Pictures) Fox, Paramount, MGM (now part of Sony I think), Disney and Warner Brothers. I am assuming no one else has signed on if they arn't being listed or am I being presumptuous?
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riz
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well have to wait dvd audio was gonna blow us away, i think it will be better but a dvd film is 3-4gb with dolby etc quality sound what more can they add that we will appreciate, i hear stories of u being able to see indiviual hairs and the time on peoples watches, but when i watch blu-ray p**n for 5mins i dont care lol
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^^ ah didnt read the link, lol! There are still some studios missing from both sides!
What I'm worried about is are we going to need to buy both to watch our fave movies? Imagine the price of a combined Blu Ray / HD DVD player!
What I'm worried about is are we going to need to buy both to watch our fave movies? Imagine the price of a combined Blu Ray / HD DVD player!
I think the deciding factor is where high definition will stop. The only benifit that blu-ray has over hd-dvd is sive 50gb compared to 30gb. Now I know nothing about these sorta things but i've guessing that if industry see the picture dpi increasing and the sound quality increase much further than what we currently have the extra space on the blu-ray dvd's will be needed.
Think Roy mentioned that a HD version of Gladiator was 22gb? if thats where its going to stop then hd-dvd will be fine.. if it goes further tho, hd-dvd will be in trouble!
Think Roy mentioned that a HD version of Gladiator was 22gb? if thats where its going to stop then hd-dvd will be fine.. if it goes further tho, hd-dvd will be in trouble!
thats why I am getting the HD-DVD addon for 360 and a PS3, best of both worlds plus having both consoles and all of it costing less than a blu ray player at the moment.
