Appeal or not help please

[Cuthbert]

The other night I got caught by an unmarked car doing 73 in a 50 on a duel carriageway. Issued with a £60 fine and 3 points, I was just wondering what my chances of appealing successfully are. On the grounds of insufficiant indications of the 50mph limit. Because I thought the speed limit was 70.

The road has no junctions, or lights so no real hazards, and is in the middle of nowhere. There is no real reason for anyone to be walking along the pavement, and no reasaon to cross it. There wre no other cars on the road.

I also noticed, on the ticket that he has put the wrong road (the road round the corner), the cop car was video equiped, and im sure hes kept the video. Will him putting the wrong road help me at all? What would I risk by appealing? If its just a larger fine im sure it would be worth it. I know I was a silly boy, so no driving advice please.

 

[Tom]

Wouldnt even bother arguing.

Not worth it.

 

[Bryan]

the fact he has stated the wrong road will help

however, he has video evidence, you will be found guilty of speeding regardless of location

take it as a slap round the head, and learn your lesson

 

[cnic69]

Either way i doubt you can appeal.

At the end of the day 73 is breaking any speed limit especially on non motorway roads.

Take it like a man and stop whinging !

 

[Dan##]

unless your on 9 points, id just accept it!

 

[Cuthbert]

Quote: Originally posted by cnic69 on 28 January 2005


Take it like a man and stop whinging !

LOL

But can I loose anything by appealing?? It will delay it long enough for an insurance renewal. There is only one speed limit sign. The other has been covered by graffiti. I have 6 points and ages before 3 drop off.




[Edited by Cuthbert on 28 January 2005 at 8:19pm]

 

[cnic69]

if you go to court and appeal you will waste your time and your money and still get shafted.

Upto you really mate but post the outcome if you do

 

[182_blue]

you wouldnt stand a chance, its your resposibility to know the limits on the roads

 

[Dash]

Simple maths.

50/75 = SP30 - £60 + > premium = lesson learned

 

[Cuthbert]

Damn, thanks guys. Im off to take my licence to Maidenhead police station. 30mph all the way.

 

[Lewy.Lewis]

I think you have more chance with a monopoly Get Out of Jail Free card working mate. May be worth while taking pictures of the road and any road markings to prove the case but wouldnt advising messing with the Police and Courts - They have plenty of rubber gloves and KY Jelly (if you know what I mean....

[Edited by Lewy.Lewis on 1/28/2005 8:37:10 PM]

 

[John V6]

Were you speeding ?

If yes - go to jail - end of storey

 

[cnic69]

They should burn Maidenhead police station to the ground.

Too close to the fire brigade though

 

[Nick Read]

This ones pretty straightforward. If you wanted to plead not guilty, you should have done so at the side of the road. By accepting the ticket and the fine/points you have stated that you are guilty of the alleged offence. And that is IT. Theres nothing else to be said.

If you hadnt accepted the ticket and argued that you did not think you had been speeding, you would have then had a chance to defend yourself in court. A pre-trial review date would have been set where you and a CPS lawyer would have met at magistrates court. He would have told the magistrates exactly what happened and that they had video evidence, and you would say that you didnt think one signpost was enough notification of a speed limit, and that they had written the wrong road down.

He would say that one signpost was enough to mark the limit, and that the fact of the matter was that you were doing 73 anyway, so even if it had been national speed limit of 70, you had still exceeded the limit anyway. They would probably admit to a slight error in the writing of the location but say that this is why they would be using video evidence rather than the officers notes. Accuracy of the video or the legality of the speed limit could have been called into question if you fancied your chances (and didnt mind paying all the additional costs of the adjournment if things went against you at the final trial).

Speeding is a black and white issue. If you are over the limit by 1 mph, you are speeding.


[Edited by Nick Read on 29 January 2005 at 9:55am]

 

[AliasOmega]

Id go steal a national speed limit sign, and replace it with the 50....

And then claim it was like that at the start..





Accept it...