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Are 172 and 182 throttle bodies the same?



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Trojanhawrs

  Clio 182
My 182 is in the garage at the minute and they suspect the throttle body, have found someone breaking a 172 locally. Are these the same unit?
 
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Trojanhawrs

  Clio 182
My emissions were way out of spec, it's in an auto electrics shop and they said that the lamdas are gone and they couldn't recalibrate the throttle - said if it isn't the throttle body it's likely to be an ecu issue, just praying that's not the case
 
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bloke

  dan's cast offs.
Just reset adaptions, if they can't do that then I wouldn't trust them to the their own shoe laces.
 
RIC172

RIC172

A duff lambda is most likely the cause of the emission issues. Not sure what the throttle body's got to do with it, but I bet it's fine. Take it somewhere else, they sound like numpties
 
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Trojanhawrs

  Clio 182
Sorry guys, I've missed out some key information here. Before I took the car for mot I had been getting fluctuating revs at idle, jumping between 1 and 2k and sometimes steadily increasing until I found a gear/cut the ignition. It was intermittent but seemed to have ironed itself out, it wasn't until the emissions tested badly I thought it might have had something to do with it. At the time I thought it might have been the throttle body or a vacuum leak, but I didn't investigate any further and as I say, they're having trouble programming the throttle now. Don't know if that clears anything up
 
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Trojanhawrs

  Clio 182
I did actually take the throttle body off to see if it was gunked up - it wasn't but don't suppose that would rule out an electronic fault
 
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Trojanhawrs

  Clio 182
Blue, it's in lochgelly. I actually changed the rear lambda not long ago, chaps in the garage said they can't get a reading off it though. Was eurocarparts I got it from so shouldn't have a problem returning it anyway - cheers for the link
 
STEVE.M

STEVE.M

  PH2 172
Trojanhawrs said:
Blue, it's in lochgelly. I actually changed the rear lambda not long ago, chaps in the garage said they can't get a reading off it though. Was eurocarparts I got it from so shouldn't have a problem returning it anyway - cheers for the link
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Shame, I was looking for a Flamer.

Euro`s returns policy is a farce,

I`ve heard of dealers throwing the old unit back in the box when they have completed the job, and then sending it back for a credit.

You probably got one of those.
 
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Trojanhawrs

  Clio 182
It did clear my code when I put it in but in fairness it was only the code for the heater circuit.

Are those lambdas you linked definitely genuine? That seems an awfully good price
 
STEVE.M

STEVE.M

  PH2 172
Trojanhawrs said:
It did clear my code when I put it in but in fairness it was only the code for the heater circuit.

Are those lambdas you linked definitely genuine? That seems an awfully good price
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There is a code for the heater circuit?

The 12v supply (green wires) is shared with the injectors, fuel pump & coil pack from relay J.

Bosch of all people would down on any fakes like a ton of bricks.

Think mine came in blue box`s, but hey ho.
 
STEVE.M

STEVE.M

  PH2 172
I ordered mine on Sunday 16/09/18 and they arrived by DPD from Germany at a total cost of £80.88 (Paypal) on Monday 24/09/18.

Email updates on progress were 100% excellent.
 
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Trojanhawrs

  Clio 182
Thanks for the info bud, pretty sure the one i got from eurocarparts was in a blue box too! Yep, definitely is a code for the heater circuit, not that im terribly knowledgeable on the subject but I'm fairly sure it's independent of the sensor circuit code.

Funnily enough that guy had a flamer in his garage he was doing some work on for his mate, not sure that it's for sale though
 
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Trojanhawrs

  Clio 182
They seem to be quite well reviewed, not much urgency though Itd have to be said. Have had the car a week now and only got back to me today
 
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Trojanhawrs

  Clio 182
Dropped off the throttle body today, wasn't expecting me to have it so quickly and says it might be monday until they get round to it ?

Apparently they were using clip to calibrate the throttle, but it wouldn't stay on and is revving itself again
 
JamesBryan

JamesBryan

ClioSport Club Member
Trojanhawrs said:
Dropped off the throttle body today, wasn't expecting me to have it so quickly and says it might be monday until they get round to it ?

Apparently they were using clip to calibrate the throttle, but it wouldn't stay on and is revving itself again
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As bloke says, they don't need to calibrate it.

Just plug and play.

If it's revving by itself, the problem is elsewhere.
 
R3k1355

R3k1355

ClioSport Club Member
Spray some EZ start or something around the area you're inspecting for leaks, if the revs pick up it's obviously drawing in air from there.
Have they sorted out the obvious lambda faults before pissing around with the throttle body (that probably was never broken)
 
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Trojanhawrs

  Clio 182
R3k1355 said:
Spray some EZ start or something around the area you're inspecting for leaks, if the revs pick up it's obviously drawing in air from there.
Have they sorted out the obvious lambda faults before pissing around with the throttle body (that probably was never broken)
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It's over-revving if anything, his thoughts were I better make sure I can sort the throttle cheaply before I go spending money on more lambdas.
 
STEVE.M

STEVE.M

  PH2 172
Trojanhawrs said:
Relatively, did replace the gasket. Whats the best way to check for a leak?
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Did you replace the egg shaped "O" ring at the same time?
 

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bloke

  dan's cast offs.
Trojanhawrs said:
Apparently they were using clip to calibrate the throttle, but it wouldn't stay on and is revving itself again
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Best of luck to them!!! Get it to someone who knows what they are doing. If they've got clip all the data they need is there.
 
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Trojanhawrs

  Clio 182
bloke said:
Best of luck to them!!! Get it to someone who knows what they are doing. If they've got clip all the data they need is there.
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Looks like it'll be monday now before they get back to me - if they come back saying that the throttle body hasn't sorted it and they suspect an ecu issue, would you advise taking it elsewhere, and if so, do you know anywhere local to myself that has a good rep?
 
STEVE.M

STEVE.M

  PH2 172
Trojanhawrs said:
Definitely not, no. Is that at the throttle body?
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No, between the top and bottom inlets

If you changed the gasket, it may have fallen out.

By the way, is there an orange light with a squiggly line illuminated in the centre of the instrument assembly?
 

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