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> the problem here is that 99 out of 100 people do not
> want to start cutting up parts of their car,
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Maybe, but theres not really any reason not to...
If its for resale value, then it doesnt really effect anything... you wont notice if theres a speaker in there anyhow, even if you put the factory ones back in. Who pulls the speaker grille and/or door card off when theyre buying a car? It causes no structural damage.
If its beacuse they cant be bothered... well, it takes next to no effort, the hole is big enough already for a 6.5". YOu just have to remove a small plastic backing, which took me all of 5 minutes. If they cant be bothered, then they should stick with factory audio
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> a set of 6.5" speakers will fit, however, depth IS a
> issue, you only have around 65-70mm clearance behind
> the speaker once the window is fully opened, which IMHO
> is not good enough for a quality mid driver"
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Do you mean without removing the plastic backing? Because my boston pros fit in there with plenty of room. You can fit a space ring on the door behind the factory grille and fit just about any speaker you can find. Both the focal Utopia/K2P and the Boston Pros (old and new) will fit with room to spare.
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> yes mike they are 13cm components, very good value for >
Well, Id still prefer a 6.5" speaker
Something else to consider is Hertz (From the same ppl that make Audison amps) - they make very reasonably priced 6.5" speakers with a front mounted magnet, so theyre very very shallow. I dont know if they fit, since I havent tried them, but Id be nearly 100% sure they will. I cant remember the range name, but its easy enough to find on the web.