Best suspensions setup?

[Gardus]

I'm asking Joker if he can sell me the dampers alone.

 

[Fletcher]

Yes, so I can't set them up with the scales... I hope the H&R aren't too rough on potholes etc...

Nope, i find my H&R's pretty good on rough-bumpy surfaces.

 

[Gardus]

Do you have koni too as dampers? Or the H&R coilovers? I'm talking about springs!

 

[Fletcher]

^^^Sorry..H&R coilovers.

 

[Gardus]

Too expensive for my pockets!

 

[Fletcher]

Too expensive for my pockets!

I only paid £750 for mine brand new

 

[Gardus]

That's good but still, double what i'd pay for springs and dampers used.

 

[Gardus]

Anyway where di you find them? Usually is more than 1000£

They have inverted front dampers right?

 

[Gardus]

I'm totally confused. From K-tec they suggested the cheaper Gaz kit...

 

[W17GLE]

I'm going koni sport dampers and eibach sportlines as my car is solely used for country lanes. Any lower than say 30mm would hamper progress anyway especially on jumps and sudden compressions in the road as you'd risk hitting the sump or taking the front bumper off.

 

[Gardus]

Fred has just suggested koni-eibach or kw v1. K-tec told me that they can specify different spring rates for the gaz, but it takes 2-3 weeks.

What is the effect on a koni yellow-eibach setup to turn up the damping and can it be done without removing them?

The KW V1 has only the heigh adjustment, i guess they are good on the road but too soft for trackdays...

 

[W17GLE]

From reading up on the konis you can adjustthe damping while still on the car. They say the softest setting is 25% stiffer but tillitry them for my self i can't really say. my mate had some on another make of car and they were great he used to run them on hardest and even then they were not overly harsh.

 

[Fred@BTM]

i did say v2's if your budget will allow

 

[Aron]

i would say V2's. love mine. not faulted at all, stood up to the horrible Nurburgring curbs perfectly fine aswell.

 

[Bluebeard]

don't worry, listen to warren

they will still be very good!

Woop woop!

dougs are not bad, needs a setup badly as it all over the shop at the moment

Well that tells you how bad my previous cars were!!

 

[theduck]

Fred has just suggested koni-eibach or kw v1. K-tec told me that they can specify different spring rates for the gaz, but it takes 2-3 weeks.

What is the effect on a koni yellow-eibach setup to turn up the damping and can it be done without removing them?

The KW V1 has only the heigh adjustment, i guess they are good on the road but too soft for trackdays...

Hate to say I told you so...

 

[Gardus]

Are coilovers more delicate, like rust etc, than seperate springs and dampers? Maybe the adjustments can stick? My car is on the street every night, the garage is use for the nissan and the mini.

 

[Fletcher]

Are coilovers more delicate, like rust etc, than seperate springs and dampers? Maybe the adjustments can stick? My car is on the street every night, the garage is use for the nissan and the mini.

Not really, mine has now done about 36k with the H&R's fitted, never garaged and they're still fine and dandy.

 

[Gardus]

I think i'll post a wanted thread for KW v1/v2 o H&R coilovers, if something comes up i'll have my choice.

 

[shiyan]

i would say V2's. love mine. not faulted at all, stood up to the horrible Nurburgring curbs perfectly fine aswell.

there are only a few that you're supposed to use

 

[caister]

From reading up on the konis you can adjustthe damping while still on the car. They say the softest setting is 25% stiffer but tillitry them for my self i can't really say. my mate had some on another make of car and they were great he used to run them on hardest and even then they were not overly harsh.

They are top adjustable so it takes all of 10 seconds to adjust the damping. I wouldn't run the front on the hardest setting as it will promote understeer. I've currently got the fronts on the softest setting and the rears a 180degree turn stiffer. This seems to have worked well for road use.

I'm yet to try them on the track but I can see them being pretty good. Fred commented on how well the car handled when he had it in for some work so it can't be that bad.

 

[Aron]

there are only a few that you're supposed to use

there is a fair few you can use. more the high speed ones that you need to miss. of if your in a porsche or CSL you will hit them all, crazy fools

 

[Gardus]

I'm going for Eibach proline (more comfort than sport) and Koni Yellow, used with very low milage, 400 euros+shipping...i hope that the seller doesn't change idea! In a few weeks i should have they mounted, ready for the first trackday at monza!

 

[shiftspark]

They are top adjustable so it takes all of 10 seconds to adjust the damping. I wouldn't run the front on the hardest setting as it will promote understeer. I've currently got the fronts on the softest setting and the rears a 180degree turn stiffer. This seems to have worked well for road use.

I'm yet to try them on the track but I can see them being pretty good. Fred commented on how well the car handled when he had it in for some work so it can't be that bad.

I have Koni's on mine and Mark Fish has revalved the rears to make them firmer so I can make the rear stiffer to control the understeer.
I have currently got the standard springs on until my custom springs are done.
I have just had the suspension set today at -2.45' neg and 1mm toe out on the front and standard at the rear.
First impression is that it feels as good as my Trophy did but will know alot more after my trackday at Oulton next friday.

 

[Gardus]

Shifts i'm going to get the whiteline arb, so understeer shouldn't be an issue.

What kind of springs? Stiffer, lower etc compared to the eibach?

 

[shiftspark]

Lower springs but not sure of the rate - may be a "secret"

 

[Gardus]

Got a problem with some oversteer, caused by dirt and leaves. Let's just side the rear of the car got a bit too happy and I put down a road sign. It left its sign just after the right door... The suspensions are on standby.

 

[theduck]

 

[Dan R]

You get what you pay for. I'm running kw v2's and a whiteline arb. Without the arb I was hassling 911's on track (the r888's helped as well!). Dan, was it howsers car you tried with kw's?

Hassling 911's!! clearly they couldnt drive them then! PMSL!!!

 

[theduck]

Hassling 911's!! clearly they couldnt drive them then! PMSL!!!

Depends entirely on the 911 tbh.

 

[Dan R]

Depends entirely on the 911 tbh.

maybe but a standard 996 911 driven properly will walk over a clio!!

 

[Gardus]

Instead of the suspension i think i'll buy some winter tyres (pirelli wintersport w190)...the damage is done but i don't like how the car handles on cold and damp tarmac.