bhp of 172

[JPW172]

hi guys just a quik 1, ive been reading many threads on here , and alot of people r sayin that a standard 172 produces 165 bhp,,,if thats the case what does the 172 mean???.....cheers

 

[iPap]

Means Renault messed up!

 

[marvt74]

A lot of the ones at the RR day at RE performance were putting out about 144bhp at the wheels which makes about 172 at the fly

 

[TheCake]

Yeah its 172 @ the fly I think.

 

[Tom_16v]

172PS

Works out at 167bhp iirc

 

[BUTRE]

144bhp @ wheels is more 160bhp at flywheel I would say.

 

[BIGDAVE]

144 @ at the wheels IS about 170 @ the flywheel.Clio 172 means 172ps which is 170 bhp.

 

[Pete]

172ps = 169 bhp

 

[rich[182]]

My 172 is marketed as a 172 so as far as Im concerned I tell people its 172 and thats that. If Im one of the lucky ones who have 172 thats cool, If on the other hand Ive got 165 I couldnt care less. Im sure theres other manufacturers cars out there with slightly less than quoted, Cant see this being unique to Renault.

 

[Roamer]

it is 172ps which is 169 bhp, and to the guys talking about "at the wheels" and "at the flywheel" figures - remember there isnt a constant percentage loss figure as it has to do with things like gearbox oil temp/flow rates etc too.

 

[Jonathan]

See below pic from Mk1 172 brochure, it doesnt say PS on it.

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1073853557__brochure.jpg

 

[Roamer]

its the difference between bhp(SAE) and bhp(PS) they are talking about bhp(PS) but not actually identifying it as such.

 

[Ben H]

Most Williams Ive seen strapped to a RR make over 140bhp ATW.

 

[Jonathan]

Does anyone know the reason why euro standard bhp(din) or PS is fractionaly different to the american SAE version ? why make things confusing !