Budget tyres for the back?

[Dave J]

Would it be ok for me to put 2 odd budget tyres on the back of my clio with 16" sport alloys, ive already got one thats the right size and literally brand new, just need it to be fitted but should i get a matching pair for £80 or so or just get another and fit it for £40. Dont really want to spend OTT amounts on tyres as the car isnt exactly fast. Ive got a pair of matching michelins for the front so theres no need to worry there!

 

[Bluebeard]

Ideally you want two matching tyres on one axle.

 

[Dave J]

thing is ive got 4 odd tyres on it at the moment and it handles fine its never spun out, havent exactly gone easy on it as some points either!

 

[cat171]

I wouldn't put budgets on it at all tbh.

 

[bmh.01]

Good/ok tyres on the front + shite ones on the back = sidewards, lots. Been there, done it, great laugh for a few days (when you expect it) but not a good idea on the wholeshot, especially in winter.

 

[Dink]

the last place i'd put budgets on a car would be the rear

 

[Dave J]

may now just be putting one budget on the rear and a yokohomma S drive http://www.motor-world.co.uk/show_prod.php?prod_id=14725

 

[Bluebeard]

tbh, i can't understand why people skimp out on tyres?? They're the single and most important thing that keeps you in contact with the road!!

 

[bmh.01]

^ Me neither. As dan says its the only thing keeping you stuck to the black stuff!

 

[Dave J]

But im just asking for advice? not how i should spend all my cash on expensive tyres when i dont own a fast car or attempt to take every corner fast?

 

[Anonymous]

But im just asking for advice? not how i should spend all my cash on expensive tyres when i dont own a fast car or attempt to take every corner fast?

Thats what you are getting

What size wheels are you running? I only paid £30ish for 15" Eagle F1's from mytyres

 

[rs250nut]

Tyres are the most important part of a car providing its running so why skimp with poo tyres, always a matching pair per axle

 

[Steve]

tbh, i can't understand why people skimp out on tyres?? They're the single and most important thing that keeps you in contact with the road!!

Well said

Funny how they always have money for chrome tax disc holders etc etc :S

 

[Dave J]

Well im sorted now got another decent one, ive been running my clio with all different tyres for 4 months and its been fine

 

[Shorty434]

This the same as guy as the thread below, with the different speed ratings?

 

[Cue]

to sacrifice on tyres is as sensible as taking off your disk brakes to put drum brakes on, then disconnecting the servo......

 

[A18XHO]

well if you have 4 mix and matches then it doesnt really matter as you dont care

 

[jamie_c1973]

Agree with above advice. A twitchy rear end is fun when you are expecting it, but spinning in the car's own length on a greasy country lane for no apparent reason is not! (knackered rear tyres)

 

[Dave J]

the rear tyres arnt knackered though and ive never spun the car on a country lane and i dont always go easy down them!

 

[edde]

Best tyres always on the back never stick usless ones on the back.

 

[Jungle_Jim]

try www.mytyres.co.uk you have to buy them either in sets of 2 or 4 but they have decent brands at reasonable prices

 

[Dave J]

Ive got everything sorted now, been told by a ATS that i should have a decent set on the front as the cars front wheel drive and thats what other people have said, and the chap at ATS wasnt trying to flog me anything as i went there for advice and a quote.

 

[Rich]

Understeer is far easier to correct than oversteer which is why they recommend you to have the best tyres on the back

http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/auto/auto_cons_bib_pqr_neuf.jsp

As others have said the tyres are your only contact point with the road, good tyres all round is a no brainer

 

[cat171]

Ive got everything sorted now, been told by a ATS that i should have a decent set on the front as the cars front wheel drive and thats what other people have said, and the chap at ATS wasnt trying to flog me anything as i went there for advice and a quote.

Ignore that bloke.

What Rich said & others is correct.

What size are they anyway ??

 

[Peperami]

Lol at this thread.

Listen to the advice of those that do lots of driving, and trackdays, not some chap from ats that knows how to put tyres on for minimum wage...

 

[GordonD]

90% of drivers would never notice if they had four very different tyres on their car. I have to admit myself that twice I've failed to notice flat rear tyres, including once driving 20 kms, including around a couple of roundabouts, and only realising a rear tyre was dead-flat because of the odd noise echoing back off a brick wall beside the road.

But if you're one of the other 10% who pushes the limit you want the good tyres on the rear. Putting good tyres on the front and crap tyres on the rear means that right up to the handling limit it feels good, then you lose it suddenly and completely. Putting the good tyes on the front may make the handling seem better because you'll get less understeer, but at the limit it'll be dangerous.

So the question is: how close to the limit do you think you'll ever get?

 

[Rich]

Not sure about that !

All the above is well and good until you encounter a greasy roundabout or wet manhole cover mid corner where on s**t tyres oversteer will occur at very low speeds not close to the limit at all.

 

[Turkish]

Always amuses me when people justify not spending money on decent tyres with the statement "it's only a 1.2" or "it's not a fast car" 70mph is 70mph whether you are in an Enzo or a 1.2 clio and crap tyres will make it alot harder to slow the car down quickly. The same goes for cornering, crap tyres make it alot more likely the car will get out of shape if you find a greasy patch or are carrying too much speed.

 

[P111LTL]

In the cold wet weather in wales you definately dont want cheap tyres at this time of year especially. Leaves on the road all sorts you will need every little bit of grip

 

[marco_polo]

I'm with Loony ^ . It's rare to find a car that can't do 70 on the motorway, no matter how slowly it gets there. How would you feel if you couldn't stop when you needed to, and accidentally injured someone?

Get yourself some new Michelins all round, and change them at 3mm.

 

[Cue]

i'm sorry but i'm going to disagree with a few people. Having better grip on the back is only better if you don't have high car control.

A front wheel drive car has steering, braking and acceleration all through the front wheels - with lower grip on the front compared to the rears it's a hell of a lot harder to control the car.

In a rear drive car then the grip should be spread between rear and front but in a front driver then i'd always put newer tyre on the front or a softer compound.

You loose the back end in a fwd car and you can correct it with the steering and accelrator - with no grip to counter that i.e. with older or balder tyres, you can't so it's going to be in the wall or hedge.

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

Would it be ok for me to put 2 odd budget tyres on the back of my clio with 16" sport alloys, ive already got one thats the right size and literally brand new, just need it to be fitted but should i get a matching pair for £80 or so or just get another and fit it for £40. Dont really want to spend OTT amounts on tyres as the car isnt exactly fast. Ive got a pair of matching michelins for the front so theres no need to worry there!

Don't worry about it mate!

Winter's here so everyone drives slower anyway, budget tyres all round I say!

 

[Dave J]

Gah the tyre i got off me mate is punctured, can apparantly be plugged though so im gunna go see about that!

 

[leighk18]

Gah the tyre i got off me mate is punctured, can apparantly be plugged though so im gunna go see about that!

do you like your car? the amount you spending on all these diffent tiers of people you could of got ya self some alright tiers and be safe in knowing if your car need the grip to brake hard out if you miss judge the conor you will get round it as every body has said its the only thing between you and the road

 

[Turkish]

i'm sorry but i'm going to disagree with a few people. Having better grip on the back is only better if you don't have high car control.

A front wheel drive car has steering, braking and acceleration all through the front wheels - with lower grip on the front compared to the rears it's a hell of a lot harder to control the car.

You loose the back end in a fwd car and you can correct it with the steering and accelrator - with no grip to counter that i.e. with older or balder tyres, you can't so it's going to be in the wall or hedge.

That's the whole point though, the school of thinking on best grip on the back is you shouldn't be able to push hard enough to get the back end to break out. The front end will have a tendancy to lose grip first which for most poor/average drivers is alot easier to correct than a highly mobile rear end that steps out with little or no warning when pushed too hard. If they are finding the car has a tendancy to understeer chances are they arent going to push as hard, whereas if they have no sign that the level of grip is dropping off then the first they'll know about it is when the back end tries to overtake them.

 

[Tony Hunter]

I think young man you are taking the p-ss,just listen to what everybody has told you.And now your saying that the rubbish tyre has got a hole in it!! If you like eating your food through a straw then thats fine,just dont take anybody else with you

 

[Dave J]

Right i have two literally new michelin pilots on 2 of me wheels, a new tyre on one and another very good condition one (but thats punctured) in all ive spent £195 on a decent set of clio sport 172 wheels with tyres.

 

[Cue]

i'm sorry but i'm going to disagree with a few people. Having better grip on the back is only better if you don't have high car control.

A front wheel drive car has steering, braking and acceleration all through the front wheels - with lower grip on the front compared to the rears it's a hell of a lot harder to control the car.

You loose the back end in a fwd car and you can correct it with the steering and accelrator - with no grip to counter that i.e. with older or balder tyres, you can't so it's going to be in the wall or hedge.

That's the whole point though, the school of thinking on best grip on the back is you shouldn't be able to push hard enough to get the back end to break out. The front end will have a tendancy to lose grip first which for most poor/average drivers is alot easier to correct than a highly mobile rear end that steps out with little or no warning when pushed too hard. If they are finding the car has a tendancy to understeer chances are they arent going to push as hard, whereas if they have no sign that the level of grip is dropping off then the first they'll know about it is when the back end tries to overtake them.

That's a fair comment, using the lower grip levels to slow you down but i'd still prefer to be hanging the back out - i think i'm just used to it from driving many 000's of miles in rwd cars.

 

[Dave J]

Im buying 2 brand new tyres the other one has a hole in the sidewall, not my day today plus u lot changed my mind anyway. The other tyres goin back 2 me mate

 

[Tony Hunter]

You know it makes sense