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Cable broadband



  Titanium 182 FF
What are people's experiences with cable broadband?. A group of 4 of us are thinking of getting the virgin 20mb package in our student house. Is it really as good as they say?
 
I'd personally never choose Cable over a DSL connection for example, but then that's me from a more technical point of view. DSL providers give you more flexibility..

As a "plug into router and use" sort of thing, you can't do much wrong by using Cable :)

Depends what you wanna do I guess.. but I'm guessing the advantages various DSL providers give you (such as multiple static IPs etc..) aren't going to be of interest.. in which case, they're all about the same.
 
  Titanium 182 FF
thankyou for the reply. Basically theres 4 of us so downloading is gona feature heavily and we play online gaming alot.
We just want a really fast connection basically. Does anybody know what the setup costs are for cable? it is available in the area its just not wired for our particular house yet.

Can we have a wired DSL connection? i have wireless here at my parents and its abit tempermental sometimes so we want wired. Which is better?

Cheers, Mat
 
Wired or Wireless will be the same internally be it on any connection.

Wired is ALWAYS better.. but not always the best solution. I have wired for my desktops but wireless on laptop - I wouldn't ever get rid of wireless now.. I use it everywhere in the house.. but it is solid.

With ADSL you would need a BT telephone line probably.. (Do any LLU'd suppliers fit their own line yet? I know Easynet do for business..).
Then you need to find an ISP..

Check out virginmedia.co.uk for cable pricing though.. :)

Or, bt.com for a phone line (£11 a month) + an ISP (Eclipse, Plus.net, Zen are ya best bets)

Bear in mind though usage limits.. and if you have 4 students all maxing any line, it will get frowned upon.. ;)
 
  Titanium 182 FF
Wired or Wireless will be the same internally be it on any connection.

Wired is ALWAYS better.. but not always the best solution. I have wired for my desktops but wireless on laptop - I wouldn't ever get rid of wireless now.. I use it everywhere in the house.. but it is solid.

With ADSL you would need a BT telephone line probably.. (Do any LLU'd suppliers fit their own line yet? I know Easynet do for business..).
Then you need to find an ISP..

Check out virginmedia.co.uk for cable pricing though.. :)

Or, bt.com for a phone line (£11 a month) + an ISP (Eclipse, Plus.net, Zen are ya best bets)

Bear in mind though usage limits.. and if you have 4 students all maxing any line, it will get frowned upon.. ;)

Yea but come on even with 20mb will they still frown on us? after all it is unlimited ;) Im not quite sure on the whole 'router' situation is this one good enough for cable? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Linksys-2-4GH...ryZ44997QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

How will cable broadband work if the router is connected downstairs and all our computers are upstairs? god im such a noob :rasp:
 
Wired or Wireless will be the same internally be it on any connection.

Wired is ALWAYS better.. but not always the best solution. I have wired for my desktops but wireless on laptop - I wouldn't ever get rid of wireless now.. I use it everywhere in the house.. but it is solid.

With ADSL you would need a BT telephone line probably.. (Do any LLU'd suppliers fit their own line yet? I know Easynet do for business..).
Then you need to find an ISP..

Check out virginmedia.co.uk for cable pricing though.. :)

Or, bt.com for a phone line (£11 a month) + an ISP (Eclipse, Plus.net, Zen are ya best bets)

Bear in mind though usage limits.. and if you have 4 students all maxing any line, it will get frowned upon.. ;)

Yea but come on even with 20mb will they still frown on us? after all it is unlimited ;) Im not quite sure on the whole 'router' situation is this one good enough for cable? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Linksys-2-4GH...ryZ44997QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

How will cable broadband work if the router is connected downstairs and all our computers are upstairs? god im such a noob :rasp:

There will be some sort of Fair Usage policy I would have thought..
It will work by wireless, or you'd need to run some CAT5 cabling through the house to each PC ;)
 
It is if wireless doesn't work, yes.
If wireless does work, get everyone on that.. easier..

(Altho, 20Mb on Wireless, if you max it, you'd need a reasonable signal I'd have thought.. )

If you can be bothered with cabling the place, and you are allowed to, then do it.. but if it was me, I'd be trying wireless out :rasp:
 
  Titanium 182 FF
It is if wireless doesn't work, yes.
If wireless does work, get everyone on that.. easier..

(Altho, 20Mb on Wireless, if you max it, you'd need a reasonable signal I'd have thought.. )

If you can be bothered with cabling the place, and you are allowed to, then do it.. but if it was me, I'd be trying wireless out :rasp:

I have 5mb wireless here at home and when more than one comp is on it sometimes crashes etc. i think wired is much better for online gaming too. maybe its just this wanadoo livebox connection it never has been the most reliable thing.
 
Just a quick note, if you do go wireless, and you need top stuff to get through the walls etc.., I'd recommend paying a bit extra.. (something like a Cisco 871w for cable, or 857w for DSL).

Cisco stuff is expensive, but I've yet to find any other wireless networking gear which works so well.. (

I've used Linksys, Netgear, Belkin, D-Link, Speedtouch, 3COM, etc. and the wireless capabilities of the Cisco equipment is awesome.
 
  Titanium 182 FF
Just a quick note, if you do go wireless, and you need top stuff to get through the walls etc.., I'd recommend paying a bit extra.. (something like a Cisco 871w for cable, or 857w for DSL).

Cisco stuff is expensive, but I've yet to find any other wireless networking gear which works so well.. (

I've used Linksys, Netgear, Belkin, D-Link, Speedtouch, 3COM, etc. and the wireless capabilities of the Cisco equipment is awesome.

We are students, money is of the essence we cant afford £130+ routers lol.
 
Just a quick note, if you do go wireless, and you need top stuff to get through the walls etc.., I'd recommend paying a bit extra.. (something like a Cisco 871w for cable, or 857w for DSL).

Cisco stuff is expensive, but I've yet to find any other wireless networking gear which works so well.. (

I've used Linksys, Netgear, Belkin, D-Link, Speedtouch, 3COM, etc. and the wireless capabilities of the Cisco equipment is awesome.

We are students, money is of the essence we cant afford £130+ routers lol.

£50 each say.. which is the price of a crap router if you all bought one yaself ;)
 
  Titanium 182 FF
are £50 routers that crap? we arent professionals so we dont need anything amazing.

I thought we only needed one router? rather than one each.
 
are £50 routers that crap? we arent professionals so we dont need anything amazing.

I thought we only needed one router? rather than one each.

Yes, 1 router is fine..
and yes, I wouldn't expect anything around the £50 range to be solid and not require rebooting tho.. :)
Obviously it all depends on which one you use, how much traffic you pass etc.. most are really bad with what's called routing/nat tables filling up and falling on their ass! ;)

It all depends on your requirements tho :)
 

KDF

  Audi TT Stronic
If you use Virgin media 20mbit package, you wont see over 12mb and if you download/upload more than 3GB between 4pm and 12am your connection will drop to 5mbit and upload speed will half !
 

ChrisR

ClioSport Club Member
and yes, I wouldn't expect anything around the £50 range to be solid and not require rebooting tho.. :)

Depends what crap you're buying Daz :p My trusty Zyxel was a whopping £40 (although it's neaer £50 now) and hasn't been restarted since putting it in :) They make good cheap routers.

A friend owns a website dedicated to "broadband equipment" (don't want to say where for fear of being accused of plugging it, but it might have been linked to in a post above :p) has always recommended them for lower budgets, and Drayteks if you're a little more flush (but even then they are "cheap" routers).

The 660 series are especially decent, my mate said at the time I was trying to choose between a Zyxel 660, some Dlink and some netgear thing "The 660HW is the most powerful out of those 3. Funnily enough I had a meeting the other day with ZyXEL technical on their roadmap and said the 660HW should be stripped of features!" No idea if they do Cable routers though :(

Cisco is all well and good but for a home user it's over the top and overpriced imho.
 
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Marky_

ClioSport Club Member
  182
We used the ntl 10mb between the 4 of us last year. To be honest it wasn't enough as there was always someone downloading "big video files" and someone else playing games. The service wasn't great and it would sometimes just go down (probably didn't help that we were usually down a few payments :p). To be fair they were quite lenient towards us.

All of us were connected via that exact model of linksys router, which needed rebooting at least once a week or so it seemed. We also couldn't use it wirelessly as everytime we enabled it, the whole thing slowed to a crawl no matter how much security we put on.

Good times though :D
 
If you use Virgin media 20mbit package, you wont see over 12mb and if you download/upload more than 3GB between 4pm and 12am your connection will drop to 5mbit and upload speed will half !

I've seen a fairly regular 17-18mb on my connection. Sure, it drops to 5mb during peak times under the conditions you mention, but over a 24h period you still download more for the same price. For some reason this is bad :D
 

KDF

  Audi TT Stronic
If you only use it mainly between 4pm and 12am then yes it is bad !

I've tried everything at all times of the day and night, even multiple connections to paid news server (giganews) and cant get 20mbit ! most I see is about 1.2-1.3MB/s
 


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