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  clio 182
thinking about a cam and throttle body conversion or just cams or just Throttle Body's what sort of gains do u get and is it worth it?

cheers
matt
 
  clio 182
so just cams not worth it??? looking at the gdi kit[Throttle bodies ect] for about 4 grand? seems like good value?
 
  Mk1 RT + F7p + 172 Brakes
depends on how wild the cam is, and if it is a 'wild' one then you would need ITB's to get it running right.

if you want big gains turbo is the way to go, more gains for the cost
 
15 brake for 2k? id rather eat a dick!!

Just buy a turbo car in the first place then get it remapped for about 250 quid gains of about 40 brake quite easy lol
 
  Clio 182 & Saxo VTR
Thats rather suprising. Ive heard 1*2 dont respond well to modifications but i didnt think they would suffer that bad!
 
  Ph1
depends on how wild the cam is, and if it is a 'wild' one then you would need ITB's to get it running right.

You need ITB's to run right if you have wild cams? Thats a new one... :S :quiet:

172's respond ok to mods, its just that you have to pay in the neck for silly small gains
 
depends on how wild the cam is, and if it is a 'wild' one then you would need ITB's to get it running right.

utter load of tripe. Wild cams mean more lift at TDC, more lift means more chance of your pistons hitting the valves, in which case you can pocket the pistons to clear. To get wild cams running right you need to machine the pistons if they are that wild and also run standalone because of the overlap.

if you want big gains turbo is the way to go, more gains for the cost[/quote]

turbo's are great for people with load of money that like to replace major engine components on a weekly basis. Lad off Williams Clio's went bang, Nick Read's was unreliable as f**k, even years down the line once the process was perfected and my mate Adi bought it, the car was still an unreliable albeit fast 'nail'. Yes, turbo's make more power, but they cost the same for the same power as ITB's and blow up... or you can spend 8k+ and get one that's even faster and will blow a hole in your pocket as quick as it will the block.
 
  RS RIP
depends on how wild the cam is, and if it is a 'wild' one then you would need ITB's to get it running right.

utter load of tripe. Wild cams mean more lift at TDC, more lift means more chance of your pistons hitting the valves, in which case you can pocket the pistons to clear. To get wild cams running right you need to machine the pistons if they are that wild and also run standalone because of the overlap.

if you want big gains turbo is the way to go, more gains for the cost

turbo's are great for people with load of money that like to replace major engine components on a weekly basis. Lad off Williams Clio's went bang, Nick Read's was unreliable as f**k, even years down the line once the process was perfected and my mate Adi bought it, the car was still an unreliable albeit fast 'nail'. Yes, turbo's make more power, but they cost the same for the same power as ITB's and blow up... or you can spend 8k+ and get one that's even faster and will blow a hole in your pocket as quick as it will the block.[/quote]

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Hey have we forgotten the MB carperformance turboconversion ?

Only running 0,5 bar making 220 bhp , reliable one to go for !?

Check their site you might be interested !

http://www.mbcarperformance.nl/cata...=3043&osCsid=03fe1d9cf39d3bdacf2983b30ed17dac

this is what i'm saving up for !

** edit this link is the one ; http://www.mbcarperformance.nl/cata...aa2cc&osCsid=03fe1d9cf39d3bdacf2983b30ed17dac
 
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  williams 2
having driven both turbo clios and high power n/a clios imo the n/a ones are abit more fun. Yeah charged cars do make more power but do cost a fair bit more to build in most cases.

cams and single body can give a healthy 200bhp, it transforms the way the car drives giving it alot more mid range power and responce. With itb's its taken to the next level with the clio's. With the right shassis set up and some good brakes you can seriously upset some £XXXXXX cars around the roads and track!

Got a good couple of demo cars at GDI so you can come get an idea before you make your mind if you wish!
 
  Ph1
If you want a faster than the norm 172 and gonna be keeping it for a fair few years then yeah go for it

But..

Be aware, for 2 to 4k's worth of mods on 172, you could have a very nice second car sat on your driveway with bags more potential.
 
  Mk4 XR3i 90 - spec
Would the engine from new RS megane fit at all??

IIRC that's a 2.0 turbo? Surely a much cheaper option to tune since it's already a turbo and 225. Fitting would be the harder part but someone could do it...

No?
 
Hey have we forgotten the MB carperformance turboconversion ?

Only running 0,5 bar making 220 bhp , reliable one to go for !?

Check their site you might be interested !

http://www.mbcarperformance.nl/cata...=3043&osCsid=03fe1d9cf39d3bdacf2983b30ed17dac

this is what i'm saving up for !

** edit this link is the one ; http://www.mbcarperformance.nl/cata...aa2cc&osCsid=03fe1d9cf39d3bdacf2983b30ed17dac


Not forgotten, just never heard of it... which could be a good or bad thing. Price seems good until you realise it doesn't include fitting, which will basically bring the cost up over an ITB conversion and yields the same power but with more torque... not to mention more stress on standard internals being boosted. No idea how reliable this will be, if it's anything like any other turbo conversion it will fail at some point, and spectacularly at that. My engines survived 80k, 40k of which on bodies and makes 220bhp all day long
 
  Ph1
Would the engine from new RS megane fit at all??

IIRC that's a 2.0 turbo? Surely a much cheaper option to tune since it's already a turbo and 225. Fitting would be the harder part but someone could do it...

No?

Think the problem is the gearbox, rarity of getting hold of a donor engine and cost vs other methods.

Sure i read someone on here tried but gave up due to various problems

Better cost per turbo option would be a VAG 20v Turbo conversion
 


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