camshafts

[Andyman]

Cams and TB's will be about 210 - 230 maybe? for what, 3.5k all fitted and mapped area?
4k to supercharge and that gets you 250 brake with potential too boot.

 

[K-Tec Racing]

bit less cost wise andy, but pricipal is there

 

[Brian172]

I think id have to drive a SC'd and TB'd Clio to see what i personally prefer.
Thanks for the advice

Andy (ktec) when you say about getting management first, do you mean getting a better ecu such as an Omex unit before any major mods?

 

[Tom@JMS]

going to wade in here and say the C&B's

Happy birthday btw Dan, you old fart

 

[K-Tec Racing]

Personally yes, you will get similar power gains with that as 428's and a remap.. plus it will drive better

 

[Steviant]

428's are currently the only option in that range to run on stock managment

Schrick

 

[Fred@BTM]

^thankyou! (they're not in the catcams range BTW )

 

[Steviant]

^thankyou! (they're not in the catcmas range BTW )

The pleasure is all mine.

 

[K-Tec Racing]

Schrick

"in that range" as in the CAT ones

the shrick will have the same overlap, and will be more expensive.

they are ok though

 

[sideways danny]

Schrick

are they in the catcams range now?

edit: dammit too slow. distracted by women of msn FTL

 

[Brian172]

Ah i only thought aftermarket ECUs where useful on heavily modified engines, interesting stuff.
What sort of gain with 428's + omex would you get over 428's + standard ecu.

 

[K-Tec Racing]

and we all know you love Shrick Fred, dont worry its etched in our minds.

 

[Steviant]

Is that some kind of pedantic echo?

Next time I will read every post in the thread.

 

[sideways danny]

I'd not get any cams without standalone at the moment. f**k all maps that work properly at this point in time

 

[Tom@JMS]

edit: dammit too slow. distracted by women of msn FTL

i'm not female

 

[Brian172]

Well my engine mods are going to be progressive over time due to money.
Rather than saving and getting everything done at once, it'll be step by step.
Think ill start off by getting myself some standalone management.

 

[sideways danny]

i'm not female

pfft.....I meant Andy

 

[sideways danny]

Well my engine mods are going to be progressive over time due to money.
Rather than saving and getting everything done at once, it'll be step by step.
Think ill start off by getting myself some standalone management.

sensible. Pop over to JMS one day when i'm there and you can have a look at my mk1 RSI. Omex with full clubman loom fitted. Standalone is the only way to travel

 

[Brian172]

Sounds good danny, just let me know when your there via a PM. i pop on CS most days so will see the message.

 

[Tom@JMS]

sensible. Pop over to JMS one day when i'm there and you can have a look at my mk1 RSI. Omex with full clubman loom fitted. Standalone is the only way to travel

weapon. Shed, but a weapon

 

[saltyhair81]

428's are currently the only option in that range to run on stock managment

421's or above wont idle

421's, any benifit to be had over 428s once aftermarket managements in place?

ta

 

[Andyman]

Im running 428's after coming from Piper's and imo their a disappointment although different sort of cam profile.


Also the type of managment depends on the cams your running. You dont need to run standalone on all cam only applications.

You can get the stock ecu mapped or the RS Tuner thing also.

Search it

 

[Dangerous_dave]

i am running pipers - Hillpower version on stock ecu 172bhp - 192bhp very impressed.

I am however doing a big rebuild aiming for 240bhp+ N/A build, having obtained everything i need at the right price.

i will have for sale in the next month a set of catcam 421's and a set of Piper Hillpowers from my two engines. I will be going for some more aggresive cams, probably 422 or 423 cat cams unless i find anything else suitable.

As has been said you dont need aftermarket for all cam applications...


a guy called barron is having 423s fitted to his NA build, he said build should be finished in Jan and that they should be mapped then so wait to see printouts etc

 

[franx]

COLOMBO & BARIANI , lovely pieces of metal

 

[Matt@Stealthsport]

COLOMBO & BARIANI , lovely pieces of metal

Now that JMS are the UK distributors of these I am chomping at the bit.

 

[sideways danny]

As has been said you dont need aftermarket for all cam applications...

no good re-flash maps available for anything though. I've seen much better performance from cams and standalone. Every re-map on stock ECU has been disappointing. Got my own opinions on why that is. Never had access to stock ECU editing thogh for the clio though so not been able to prove it yet.

 

[Fred@BTM]

you've been using the wrong calibrator then danny! no issue at all with the stock ecu remapped using cams, only 9bhp off a throttle bodied car

 

[skiptontweed]

characteristic of a map designed to make you think a car is fast. make it flat as f**k, then bring in the power hard

Ive seen this little chestnut with early superchips for motorbikes.

 

[sideways danny]

well using the one you use was worst made fair gains with other maps but still not full potential that i've seen (using standalone) and know can be done

 

[Fred@BTM]

you having a dig at pauls maps? brave man!

 

[sideways danny]

LOl, if you say so. I like a car to be able to pull away below 4k. Telling people throttle bodied cars are all flat and crap low down cos you dont know how to do it right is just s**t

 

[K-Tec Racing]

9bhp is not the whole storey (I am talking generally here, no reference to anyone of anything specific)..

its the way they drive and getting as much power everywhere, at all throttle angles, all rpm ranges.

Andy

 

[RSTuning]

Telling people throttle bodied cars are all flat and crap low down cos you dont know how to do it right is just s**t

Who have i said that to then?!

 

[Bazzon]

LOl, if you say so. I like a car to be able to pull away below 4k. Telling people throttle bodied cars are all flat and crap low down cos you dont know how to do it right is just s**t

:S Not what paul told us

 

[Budgie]

Uh-oh.

 

[K-Tec Racing]

No need for a row people.... a sensible discussion on cams is where this is at

 

[RSTuning]

Andy, Danny clearly has issues with me so it's time to get to the bottom of it.

Its always related to GDI and staff/customers so lets have it out. Who has said what and when, will be an interesting one this because so far nobody had actually said ANYTHING.

If i'm so bad at mapping why the hell am i still in business with thousands of happy customers, including stock ecu mapping AND aftermarket.

 

[sideways danny]

If i'm so bad at mapping why the hell am i still in business with thousands of happy customers, including stock ecu mapping AND aftermarket.

love to know TBH. mystery to me.

 

[Fred@BTM]

uh oh!

 

[the_prophet]

....pulls up a chair.....