can a 1.6 civic beat a 1*2 ?

[kevin.s]

was having a tyre put on the other day and one of the young lads was admiring the 172 when he turned and said " i like these but they arnt that quick are they" so i said "they aint that bad, not the fastest car in the world but def not the slowest." then he said " my mate has got a 1.6 civic and has raced a few and non of them have ever managed to keep up with him. he just leaves them standing" so i said "thats strange because my mate has a civic type r and i can keep up with him pretty much till about 100" he then asked if id got anything done to it and i said "no just an exhaust and filter but not enough to make a huge difference" and he looked shooked. is he havin me on or do they genuinely "leave us standing" ? the impression i got was that the civic is standard as he didnt say it had anything done to it.

 

[Gaz_]

1.6 what? Vti?

 

[Sipha]

Another 1 of these threads, my mates car is faster than yours.../yawn

Take it with a pinch of salt mate, I know which I'd prefer.

 

[laz5758]

yeah, 182s are well s**t and slow.....

 

[SteveS Cup]

If it's the 1.6 Type R EK9 it's not leave you for dead but it's be in front for sure! sub 6 seconds 0-60 and it'd murder a 1*2 in the bends as well!

 

[SC03OTT]

Could have been talking about...EK9's is it? I really don't know anything about Hondas.

^ Ah, there ^

 

[SteveS Cup]

I'm a 1*2 lover btw!!! I just know those EK9's are awesome! 200bhp out of a 1.6 gets a bow from me!

I'd never own one though.

 

[SteveS Cup]

Dual wishbone suspension too iirc!

 

[marinemackay2003]

type r maybe

vti ect maybe not

 

[SteveS Cup]

 

[tyranical]

Theres a few other old civics apart from the EK9 that would see a 1*2 off, not by miles but they'd definately have you so its not the complete bulls**t you might think upon first hearing it.

 

[JCC]

Depends what 1.6 Civic. An EK9 Type R maybe, but a VTI/Jordan won't be leaving any RS's behind. EP Sports are even slower so can't be one of them.

 

[SteveS Cup]

Theres a few other old civics apart from the EK9 that would see a 1*2 off, not by miles but they'd definately have you so its not the complete bulls**t you might think upon first hearing it.

Such as?

Only other quick Civic is a VTI... and that'd be slower that a 1*2.

 

[SteveS Cup]

No maybe about the EK9... a well driven one would embarrass an awful lot of new hot hatch's.

 

[marinemackay2003]

1.6 ....VTEC....yo!!

 

[5alldaway!]

hold on a sec, isnt the ek9 rated to about 180bhp? i do like them and probly get one at some point, but i think the vti would probly match the clio and the ek9 would edge the clio but not by much

 

[Lagerlout]

Sweet jesus, that's f**king horrible :dead:

 

[Sipha]

hold on a sec, isnt the ek9 rated to about 180bhp? i do like them and probly get one at some point, but i think the vti would probly match the clio and the ek9 would edge the clio but not by much

1.8Vti = about 7.7 to 60, not as quick as a 1*2.

Also the Civic is 167Bhp.

 

[Marv-C]

EK9 won't murder a 172. Cars are close enough in ability that it ALL depends on the driver.

 

[Poopensharten]

I'm a 1*2 lover btw!!! I just know those EK9's are awesome! 200bhp out of a 1.6 gets a bow from me!

I'd never own one though.

You mean 185bhp @ 8300rpm

Alot dont make book figures it has been known, the B16BR engine is sublime if thats what we are talking about

 

[kevin.s]

wasnt an ek9, as when i mentioned my mates type r he never said that his mates one was a type too.

 

[SteveS Cup]

Sorry, maybe they're 185 bhp. Still sub 6 seconds 0 - 60.

 

[marinemackay2003]

can be made to look good

slower this slower that its all about the driver ect

 

[SteveS Cup]

I never said the EK9 would leave it on the straights, probably would in the bends thoguh... LSD makes a huge difference!

 

[SteveS Cup]

can be made to look good

slower this slower that its all about the driver ect

That is fooking awful!

I don't mean to sound all figures and slower this slower that... I just appreciate the EK9 as it is a true drivers car.

 

[Poopensharten]

Sorry, maybe they're 185 bhp. Still sub 6 seconds 0 - 60.

THe Race base version is (Merk, another member has one)

And the 5.7 to 60mph that often gets banded about was made by a 3 stone japanese man

 

[5alldaway!]

Sorry, maybe they're 185 bhp. Still sub 6 seconds 0 - 60.

id love to see a proper driver put the ek9 up against a clio and see the result, do people think a trophy would be a match with the ek9 on the corners?

 

[JCC]

That EK9 above is awful! (If it is one)

 

[Martin_172]

lol my mate used to have an ek9 and it was fast but my old 172 was quicker, over 80mph the 172 used to pull a considerable amount

i recon my standard 172 is quicker than one, not by much however

 

[5alldaway!]

THe Race base version is (Merk, another member has one)

And the 5.7 to 60mph that often gets banded about was made by a 3 stone japanese man

lol years ago in my r5 gtt i had confrontation against a civic vti on a private road, the civic walked away from me but my car was full of meaty gits, in the civic there was 3 anorexic asian lads

 

[dmn1989]

I'm a 1*2 lover btw!!! I just know those EK9's are awesome! 200bhp out of a 1.6 gets a bow from me!

I'd never own one though.

you been blowing off a honda buff cos your facts are wrong!

its 180 bhp from a 1.6 and its not sub 6 seconds to 60

theyre slower than a EP3 (type r) and i can beat my mates one

 

[5alldaway!]

That is fooking awful!

I don't mean to sound all figures and slower this slower that... I just appreciate the EK9 as it is a true drivers car.

i agree, no civic since has been as focused, the new type r aint considered to be a true type r which put me off getting one, hence i bought the trophy

 

[Poopensharten]

lol years ago in my r5 gtt i had confrontation against a civic vti on a private road, the civic walked away from me but my car was full of meaty gits, in the civic there was 3 anorexic asian lads

A Civic VTi is 158bhp the same as the Civic Jordan.

They are Saxo VTS pace

 

[Sipha]

you been blowing off a honda buff cos your facts are wrong!

its 180 bhp from a 1.6 and its not sub 6 seconds to 60

theyre slower than a EP3 (type r) and i can beat my mates one

Indeed !

They are definately slower than an EP3 Type R and we all know the 1*2 and the EP3 Type R are pretty damn similar.

You work it out.

 

[Sipha]

A Civic 1.6 VTi is 158bhp the same as the Civic Jordan.

They are Saxo VTS pace

^^ This.

 

[dmn1989]

a good b16 same as vti tuned or fiddle around with vtec will be quick, my mate had one in a integra but even he admited after he bought a 182 it was quicker.

guys trying to blow some steam cause hes got a honda thats all

ignore him as you fly past

 

[SharkyUK]

Blimey - there's some interesting facts and figures being thrown around here... LOL!

I agree with most on here - the EK9 is a fabulous car and (in decent condition) the engines are great and they drive/handle beautifully. But they aren't as fast as some would suggest on here; certainly not going to murder a 1*2. I daresay from experience that the 1*2 will edge a drag (which admittedly is boring and only for Santa Pod freaks) but the EK9 does love the twisties too.

 

[Poopensharten]

Id probably say the Ek9 and 1*2 are evenly matched in terms of pace, the Civic edges it on bhp/ton but the limits of each car is whoever is at the helm.

- ill say this though, ive never been in a FWD car (Merks Race Base EK9) that goes round corners aswell, so flat through the bends, absolutley frightening how quick it does it

 

[Martin_172]

they handle extremely well with the LSD

 

[Jaws]

Having owned both I'd say that the Ek9 is a tiny bit faster. The figure for 0-60 is in a completely stripped ek9 so the real figure is probably nearer 6.5 imo. I wouldn't say that it would leave it for dead, in all honesty I doubt you would see much difference at all unless in the hands of two professionals on a track. Day to day the 182 would probably be quicker due to the extra torque going up hills etc, however the ek9 in the right gear and in Vtec is a bit mean. I think I will stick with my ek9, faster in the corners (imo) and vtec gives you a massive grin!