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can a V6 drift ?
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BMW M4; S1000 RR
Still not drifting though is it, just sliding wildly..
Road signs under the back wheels on the other hand:nono:
MKIII 138
well fwd can drift (kind of of course not rwd style) but weve all seen the 197 going side ways being controlled properly
Turbos.
There are plenty of FWD drifters out there. Depends how you define a drift i guess.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6thh_Iw92w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6thh_Iw92w
Audi TT 225
197 pmsl its a poor party trick! Yasuyuki Kazama and his D1 buddies should kick Jean Ragnotti's ass for calling that drifing :nono:
Whats the big deal anyways its probably the worst way of getting around a corner ever created, looks pretty at shows but has no practical application in track land imo
Whats the big deal anyways its probably the worst way of getting around a corner ever created, looks pretty at shows but has no practical application in track land imo
MKIII 138
exactly ^
_Tom
ClioSport Club Member
I agree but 99% of people wouldnt class that as a drift. Try entering a drift comp with a fwd...
If you class it as a drift why are you looking at V6's? Surely the meg is capable...lol
BMW M4; S1000 RR
lol
That is NOT drifting.
That's just pulling the handbrake mid corner with stupidly thin rear tyres.
That is NOT drifting.
That's just pulling the handbrake mid corner with stupidly thin rear tyres.
MKIII 138
I agree but 99% of people wouldnt class that as a drift. Try entering a drift comp with a fwd...
If you class it as a drift why are you looking at V6's? Surely the meg is capable...lol
dunno ? its arse moves out progressivley but its not rwd stylee.
basically was trying to justify a V6 but the handling sounds and looks very poor.
Audi TT 225
if you watch the episode of top gear when hamster rolls that little van you'll see what he's doing, scandinavian flick with a little handbrake once the back end comes out. I'd rather go around a corner on 2 or 3 wheels in a clio than lazing around with my fat jap ass sticking out
The V can be made to drift, but it doesn't do it well.
I was at Brands with Jeremy Townsend who was trying his hardest to drive the final bend for the camera. Bearing in mind he's actually done a course in how to drift a car, it wasn't easy even for him. He got it sideways and under control a few times but it soon snaps back into line. It totally destroyed it's tyres too.
I'd guess the Clio is too short wheelbased to drift easily, plus it's got too much rear grip.
I was at Brands with Jeremy Townsend who was trying his hardest to drive the final bend for the camera. Bearing in mind he's actually done a course in how to drift a car, it wasn't easy even for him. He got it sideways and under control a few times but it soon snaps back into line. It totally destroyed it's tyres too.
I'd guess the Clio is too short wheelbased to drift easily, plus it's got too much rear grip.
Turbos.
Isn't drifting just putting your foot down with stupidly bald tyres?
It still demands skill...
And there are FWD drift competitions, perhaps just not over here.
BMW M4; S1000 RR
technically, a drift is a 4 wheel slide, so what people know as drifting in general nowadays, isnt drifting, its oversteer and power oversteer.
To drift, all 4 wheels need to be at a different slip angle to the direction of travel.
RWD cars can 'drift' and technically achieve a 'drift' in the real sense, easier than a RWD car.
To drift, all 4 wheels need to be at a different slip angle to the direction of travel.
RWD cars can 'drift' and technically achieve a 'drift' in the real sense, easier than a RWD car.
Iain C
ClioSport Club Member
yes!
Ive been in 1 sideways! Not like a 200 sx drift tho
Difficult to drift a MR car tho.
1 chap uses a nsx on the d1
Ive been in 1 sideways! Not like a 200 sx drift tho
Difficult to drift a MR car tho.
1 chap uses a nsx on the d1
Thats my point.
The last clip was a driver from the EDC circut so has no problems drifting anything.......apart from a clio v6.....he was sat on the lock stops there.
No one said it was slow, its just not the fastest way to corner a race car on a race track....
Clio v6 & Atom 300
Mid engined cars in general, are not good for drifting. :nono: FACT.
For drifting you want front engine rear wheel drive to keep weight away from the "mobile" part of the car.
Mid engine rear wheel drive is for grip for acceleration, and to keep the front ligther to reduce boring understeer. Its the ultimate layout for speed.:evil:
The make the Vee even worse for drifting it has short wheelbase, with little lock, and a slow rack.
Forget drifting a Vee.
Peter
For drifting you want front engine rear wheel drive to keep weight away from the "mobile" part of the car.
Mid engine rear wheel drive is for grip for acceleration, and to keep the front ligther to reduce boring understeer. Its the ultimate layout for speed.:evil:
The make the Vee even worse for drifting it has short wheelbase, with little lock, and a slow rack.
Forget drifting a Vee.
Peter
You'd of thought.
But at the complex in silverstone they enter the corner at about 120mph and yank on the hand brake, the faster japs were doing about 140 and pulling on the wand at the 150m mark.
I did a bit of cam car driving as you need to be an icredibly fast driver because a drifters corner entry and mid corner speed is far higher than a traditional racers approach. The speed that he would come up behind me was scary and i needed a fair lead on corner entry so he wouldnt smack into the back of me.
But at the complex in silverstone they enter the corner at about 120mph and yank on the hand brake, the faster japs were doing about 140 and pulling on the wand at the 150m mark.
I did a bit of cam car driving as you need to be an icredibly fast driver because a drifters corner entry and mid corner speed is far higher than a traditional racers approach. The speed that he would come up behind me was scary and i needed a fair lead on corner entry so he wouldnt smack into the back of me.
No one said it was slow, its just not the fastest way to corner a race car on a race track....
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
So why don't we see it in racing Ben?
Because races could only be one lap long before tyres have gone?
Because races could only be one lap long before tyres have gone?
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
No not the V6, I mean all the drifty/slidey stuff if it's so quick through the turns?
Why aren't race cars all set up like these drift monsters?
You didn't mention exit speed above...which is all important as I understand...is that why?
Why aren't race cars all set up like these drift monsters?
You didn't mention exit speed above...which is all important as I understand...is that why?
Yea, exit speed is dead as they just spin away all power, entry speeds are truely amazing though.
You should have a ride in a top car/driver setup........its truely awe inspiring what they do and just how much grip they have. They still run huge semi slicks and corner G is HIGH.
Its not the fastest, but it'll surprise you.
You should have a ride in a top car/driver setup........its truely awe inspiring what they do and just how much grip they have. They still run huge semi slicks and corner G is HIGH.
Its not the fastest, but it'll surprise you.
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Get the drift bible DVD, Keiichi Tsuchiya otherwise known as dori dori etc Drift a MR2 like you wouldn't believe. Although I believe it was his own companys Kei Office that set it up.
Wouldn't matter, he could drift anything, the guys a god. I love him lol. He's a handy racer too lol.
Wouldn't matter, he could drift anything, the guys a god. I love him lol. He's a handy racer too lol.
