Car died on way home from work.

[Gearinator]

Hi guys.
As some of you may be aware I have recently joined the site after buying myself a phase 1 172.
Anyway on the way home from work tonight I was stopped dead in traffic and the car just cut out. I then tried turning it over to start it and it failed to start after several attempts. As at this point I'm holding up a lot of traffic I decided to push the car to the side of the road. After attempting to turn it over after a min or so it started but rev'd to about 3k revs for a while before settling.
Me personnally I think it's maf sensor related but I just wanted any second opinions or know of anyone else who has experienced this in the past.
Thank you in advance
Dave

 

[Ol’ Tarby]

Me personnally I think it's maf

They don't run a maf sensor mate

Unless you meant MAP sensor?

 

[Mr Plums]

Timing slipped?

 

[LeeRS]

Fuel cutoff on the ph1?

 

[Gearinator]

They don't run a maf sensor mate

Unless you meant MAP sensor?

I did mean maf but looking at the intake now I can see its not maf. What an idiot lol

 

[Gearinator]

Timing slipped?

Bloody hope not

 

[Gearinator]

Fuel cutoff on the ph1?

I'm not sure.
All I know is its running spot on now. I'm just worried it will do it again, worst in the traffic tomorrow in the way home from work

 

[GrahamS]

Experiences of cars turning them selves off in the past for me have been crank sensors. It's a common problem on clios and I had it on a lupo as well.
Did you notice if the fuel pump was running when you were trying to restart it?
If the IAT/MAP sensor lost connection it would turn the car off but then wouldn't prevent restart. Try running the car with them unplugged, if the difference is very small I would look else where.
Were the lights on the dash doing anything, any particular ones staying on?
Get it plugged into any old code reader as at least that will point you in the right direction.

 

[alex_s2b]

I have never had my car cut out on me but I've had it a few times not starting and it turned out to be the crank sensor.

 

[Gearinator]

Experiences of cars turning them selves off in the past for me have been crank sensors. It's a common problem on clios and I had it on a lupo as well.
Did you notice if the fuel pump was running when you were trying to restart it?
If the IAT/MAP sensor lost connection it would turn the car off but then wouldn't prevent restart. Try running the car with them unplugged, if the difference is very small I would look else where.
Were the lights on the dash doing anything, any particular ones staying on?
Get it plugged into any old code reader as at least that will point you in the right direction.

Hi.
I couldn't hear for the fuel pump as most people behind me were to busy peeping the horn at me.
As for the lights it was the 1st thing I noticed was there were no other lights on the dash than the airbag and serv light which were already on.

 

[Gearinator]

I have never had my car cut out on me but I've had it a few times not starting and it turned out to be the crank sensor.

Well seems a common issue so I'm hoping that this is the cause.
Thanks all for help so far it's much appreciated

 

[Mar172]

Well seems a common issue so I'm hoping that this is the cause.
Thanks all for help so far it's much appreciated

Check under the bonnet on the relays might need a clean also the old crank censor if it's black you need the new blue one

 

[Gearinator]

Check under the bonnet on the relays might need a clean also the old crank censor if it's black you need the new blue one

Brilliant. How do I access the crank sensor on these clios? They look like a Ballache to work on

 

[Gearinator]

It's OK iv found underneath the airbox. Think that's it anyway hard to see.

 

[Gearinator]

Doing some research on the Web it does seem that crankshaft sensors only are at fault if car won't start at all. Is this wrong?

 

[Mar172]

Doing some research on the Web it does seem that crankshaft sensors only are at fault if car won't start at all. Is this wrong?

Yes my old ph1 would start fine some days and then on other days it would just spin over

 

[Gearinator]

Yes my old ph1 would start fine some days and then on other days it would just spin over

Great, that's all I needed to know. Thanks :up:

 

[bloke]

Doing some research on the Web it does seem that crankshaft sensors only are at fault if car won't start at all. Is this wrong?

yup, wrong.

crank sensors can give various problems.

 

[Gearinator]

yup, wrong.

crank sensors can give various problems.

Great stuff.
Can anyone recommend where to buy one from. Iv seen plenty on ebay but they're all different and clearly ranget at all different prices.

 

[bloke]

euro, get a facet one.

doubt it's your sensor though as there is no reason why they would cause high idle.

 

[Gearinator]

euro, get a facet one.

doubt it's your sensor though as there is no reason why they would cause high idle.

Can you think of anything else it could possibly be?
Sounds like I'm best off just having it plugged in.

 

[bloke]

get it plugged in and see what it comes up with.