Car not starting AGAIN!

[Jonff]

My non starting problem seems to have returned, fuel pump is priming but the engine won't crank. Left it for a while went back to it and it fired up straight away. Killed the engine and went to restart it and the engine stopped cranking again. What the hell is going on? Really winding me up this.

It's booked to go in to Renault again on Wednesday but I'd really like to find out what the problem is.

 

[SoA2k6]

TDC sensor? Give it a clean.

 

[mini-valver]

Not cranking as in, not even turning over or it'll turn over but wont start?

 

[Jonff]

TDC sensor? Give it a clean.

I tried that last time it wouldn't start to no avail, do you think it'd help?

Not cranking as in, not even turning over or it'll turn over but wont start?

Not even turning over but I've just gone out to it now and it fired up but it's been doing that for the past 3 hours or so. Starting, then not starting. I can't fathom this out at all.

 

[powey]

get a wheel wrench keep it in the car.

Whenever it dosnt start tap the starter motor through the exhaust manifold ( between branch 2+3 ) should be a black cylinder shape on the block.

Sometimes it helps to have some one hold the ignition on

 

[Jonff]

I forgot to add this to my OP. The problems started just after I washed my car, is it possible a abit of damp had gotten on to something electrical in the engine bay and caused a short somewhere?

 

[Guppy]

Give the starter motor a love tap

 

[powey]

have you cleaned the relays in the engine bay too as the terminals go green

Love tap ftw

 

[bmh.01]

Immobiliser disarming properly?

 

[mini-valver]

As above, check the LED in the middle on the SERV and STOP light goes out after a few seconds. If it does and it still wont crank, make sure the battery terminals are tight and the gearbox to chassis earth strap is tight and has a clean earth.

 

[Jonff]

get a wheel wrench keep it in the car.

Whenever it dosnt start tap the starter motor through the exhaust manifold ( between branch 2+3 ) should be a black cylinder shape on the block.

Sometimes it helps to have some one hold the ignition on

Will do mate cheers, surprised the starter motors get stuck on modern cars though.

 

[Jonff]

Immobiliser disarming properly?

Yeah! The red light in the centre is going out

have you cleaned the relays in the engine bay too as the terminals go green
Love tap ftw

Yep! They were all cleaned the last time it wouldn't start

As above, check the LED in the middle on the SERV and STOP light goes out after a few seconds. If it does and it still wont crank, make sure the battery terminals are tight and the gearbox to chassis earth strap is tight and has a clean earth.

Ok mate cheers! Where about is the gearbox to chassis earth strap located?

 

[bodyboarder]

Had this with mine turned out to be the relay under the engine bay on the left hand side, cost 15 from dealer

 

[bodyboarder]

also my relays were all clean but when you opened it up the copper connection had broken and was hanging , hence the reason it would start sometimes but not others, the rac man swopped the right hand relay over to the left one just to be sure and it started up straight away.

 

[Jonff]

Had this with mine turned out to be the relay under the engine bay on the left hand side, cost 15 from dealer

Thing is, it's been to Renault before for the same problem, surely if it was just a relay they would have found that? and I've tried the swapping relays trick as well.

 

[bodyboarder]

not sure then mate , sorry thats all the help i can offer really as that was the problem with mine. hope you get it sorted

 

[Jonff]

not sure then mate , sorry thats all the help i can offer really as that was the problem with mine. hope you get it sorted

No worries mate, appreciate your input anyway.

Car's firing everytime at the moment, very bizzare.

 

[DannyR]

Will do mate cheers, surprised the starter motors get stuck on modern cars though.

Its French

it's been to Renault before for the same problem, surely if it was just a relay they would have found that?

It's Renault

 

[Jonff]

Its French



It's Renault

Lol tell me about it. Although the dealers I've been using are one of the very few decent ones.

 

[Jonff]

Car's starting 1st time again now without any issues, very strange! I really do think it's time to sell up and move on :dapprove:

 

[powey]

mine does this will be fine for a while then does it 3 times in 5 mins

You could be swapping the relay for another duff one aswell

 

[Jonff]

mine does this will be fine for a while then does it 3 times in 5 mins

You could be swapping the relay for another duff one aswell

Suppose that's a possibility.

Something else I forgot to mention in my OP was that I'd sprayed WD40 on my clutch cable as it'd started creaking. Any chance some of that could have dripped on something electric causing the problem I had yesterday?

 

[mini-valver]

WD40 dispells water and protects electrical contacts so I doubt it dude!

Other thing to check is the solenoid on the starter, if its split and barely touching, if you hit a bump in the road and then come to start it, it wont.

 

[Jonff]

WD40 dispells water and protects electrical contacts so I doubt it dude!

Other thing to check is the solenoid on the starter, if its split and barely touching, if you hit a bump in the road and then come to start it, it wont.

Think it's something to do with the starter motor getting stuck, car decided it didn't want to start this afternoon. Managed to give it a whack with my hand and it fired up straight away again.

 

[powey]

As said carry a wheel brace lol, saved my ass up FCS

 

[Jonff]

As said carry a wheel brace lol, saved my ass up FCS

Lol already had one in the car . Bought one a while ago due to the tool Renault supply is crap.

 

[OferPeleg]

I had the Same problem 5 months ago…
Starter getting stuck and when I try to start the car by pushing it , the starter motor released and working normally …till the next time …
I’ve Changed starter motor (used one) and it was good till now ….
Same bloody problem, what can I tell you … I wish it was made in Japan …

 

[fosbrook6695]

Mine had the same problem, would only start with a quick tap on the starter motor. So i took it to the garage and it was fixed in no time, only cost 98 quid inc a new starter motor and labour . SOunds like brand new now, really pleased. But still a bit annoyed as im getting a new car hopefully next week, damn thing couldnt have lasted another week.

 

[sideways danny]

I wish it was made in Japan …[/FONT][/SIZE]

jap starters are just as bad. trouble with the renaults IMO is the proximity to the exhaust manifold.

Removal of the starter, and a good clean and re-lube of the solenoid often loses the issue for a good long while

 

[Jonff]

jap starters are just as bad. trouble with the renaults IMO is the proximity to the exhaust manifold.

Removal of the starter, and a good clean and re-lube of the solenoid often loses the issue for a good long while

I'd thought about doing that but from what I've read on here you'd need to remove the driveshaft from underneath to gain enough room to remove it. I really don't want to be disconnecting driveshafts to be honest.

 

[Mike@Rentech]

change the starter motor, and if your clever you dont need to remove the driveshaft as it will come out via the top of the engine rather than the bottom.

 

[Jonff]

change the starter motor, and if your clever you dont need to remove the driveshaft as it will come out via the top of the engine rather than the bottom.

Lol. When it comes to mechanics and changing parts on car I'm certainly not clever, I can only do very basic things.

Past couple of weeks the starter has been fine, car fires up 1st time so it seems to have temporarily sorted it's self but it'll need replacing at some point.

 

[Shaunyboy]

Lol. When it comes to mechanics and changing parts on car I'm certainly not clever, I can only do very basic things.

Past couple of weeks the starter has been fine, car fires up 1st time so it seems to have temporarily sorted it's self but it'll need replacing at some point.

If you need it changing fella give me a shout , not seen u since my brakes faded and i fucked off nerle into a taxi :dapprove: anyhows i shoud see u this thursday.

 

[Jonff]

If you need it changing fella give me a shout , not seen u since my brakes faded and i f**ked off nerle into a taxi :dapprove: anyhows i shoud see u this thursday.

Cheers mate!

Was that when you dived down that side street to the left? I wondered what happened there when you was tri-podding around that corner lol

 

[Shaunyboy]

Cheers mate!

Was that when you dived down that side street to the left? I wondered what happened there when you was tri-podding around that corner lol

Yeah was it on 3 wheels was jus showin off lmfao, nah the brakes faded at the wrong time, shitty oem pads

 

[LiamR172]

ive just been reading through this.

just got home from work and went to start the car for the first time today, was off to put petrol in it.

anyways, it wont start and the relay box is making a ticking noise. its got a brand new starter on it so its not that surely. any ideas?

 

[LiamR172]

Anyone? Be great to get the car going today as I'm heading back home for the weekend. Pretty fucked if not :s