Car won't turnover and all dash lights lost after I turn the key

[Snake182]

I have just read through a lot of this but cant decide if you sanded down all of the earth hoops and also sanded where they bolt to so that both join faces are shiney clean metal? What happens when you try to turn the key? (click, multiple clicking, whirring, nothing etc)

 

[finch wxm]

 

[finch wxm]

Yeah I've tried to clean both sides as best I can on all earth points .

its not even trying to attempt to start

The flashing red light changes to a solid red when you turn the ignition and the stop and serv lights also remain on but it's not even try in to turn over .

 

[finch wxm]

Checked fuses passenger side and had alook at relays in engine bay will have another check and check fuses there also again .


I see lots of people have had issues and I guess mine being of the road for 2 years doesn't help .

Really struggling as my skills are limited !

 

[finch wxm]

 

[finch wxm]

just found that where the 10a fuse is now there wasn't anythink in that slot !

Its now turning over !

Lets see if it will fire up !

 

[klm182]

got there in the end.... don't forget get some fuel .. ha ,if my car wont start, 1st place am looking now...(10a fuse)

 

[finch wxm]

I can't believe there was no fuse there . Must have come out at some point !

i can't find my diagnostic port.

my car is stripped out and can't find 16 pin connector .

is it actually attached to centre console as that went to the scrap yonks ago but can't find a plug with 16 pins by gearstick !

 

[bowen25]

Diagnostic plug (as long as nothing's been moved) should be under the ashtray at the bottom of the centre console mate. Pull the ashtray out and plug should be directly under it.

 

[klm182]

I thought it was under the ash tray.lift it out .never used it, just saw Renault plug it in once.

 

[finch wxm]

My car is stripped out so no ash tray or centre console

cant see an obd connector anywhere

 

[bowen25]

Although it's stripped out, should still have it in the very middle in front on the gear stick, pointing downwards.

 

[finch wxm]

Found it tucked behind firewall

 

[bowen25]

Take a picture if necessary

 

[bowen25]

Oh never mind then, sorted then

 

[bowen25]

So is she firing up now?

 

[finch wxm]

No it's turning over but not firing up

 

[finch wxm]

 

[klm182]

how much was that scanner? where can you get them from?

 

[finch wxm]

It's a snap on one buddy . I've borrowed it from a mate and I reckon it's probably £2000 - £3000 lol :-/

 

[klm182]

sell it and buy a new car lol,I know its a silly question.. if your mate has that kind of equipment ,why doesn't he fix your car?

 

[finch wxm]

It will be going there if I can't get any further .

Just was trying my best to do as much I could without having to pay .

where's the vacuum of here go to ?

 

[bloke]

clear your codes.

what happens on the dash when you crank?

try a plug in a lead and make sure you have a spark

check you are getting fuel

are you 100% you set cam timing up ok?

 

[finch wxm]

Birchdown down done cambelt , clutch and de-phaser so would hope so .

How do I check in getting fuel buddy ?

dash just remains with stop and serv but the red light goes out

 

[bloke]

pull the fuel rail and give it a quick crank.

 

[finch wxm]

Ok cool will try that .

I know know these cars are a pain when in everyday use so with mine being of he road 2 years and engine been removed it could be anythink !


Just got to check everythink I guess .

 

[leew88]

Have you checked the comnections on that white block (uch) and the other end of it in the passenger footweel

its a communication problem uch aint signalling the fuel pump so its semi immobilised

 

[finch wxm]

I will check this lee . Anythink is worth a check and try . The car is stripped out and will see .

Where is the white block (uch ) ?

I've got some cabling tooked up in the drivers footwell

 

[Snake182]

It will be going there if I can't get any further .

Just was trying my best to do as much I could without having to pay .

where's the vacuum of here go to ?

The vacuum in that pic should go to the Acoustic valve iirc, if one isn't fitted the that vacuum should be blanked off as its sucking in air after the throttle body!

 

[Snake182]

As long as you have checked the basics first i.e.... Air, Fuel, Spark, The basic things you need for an engine to even start. If you have all of these start looking into sensors and connections, such as crank sensor wiring and resistances for example.

 

[leew88]

The white block in the fuse box under the bonnet (its in a pic on this thread earlier)

 

[finch wxm]

I've got a ignition light on the dash now since checking my coilpack and ignition lead order .

Coil 4 to 1st spark plug
coil 3 to 2nd
coil 2 to 3rd
coil 4 to 4th

This wasn't on dash before but comes on now on ignition .

would this just be , coil pack or leads or does the square with zig zag refer to more ?

Will have to get code reader again

 

[Snake182]

I've got a ignition light on the dash now since checking my coilpack and ignition lead order .

Coil 4 to 1st spark plug
coil 3 to 2nd
coil 2 to 3rd
coil 4 to 4th

This wasn't on dash before but comes on now on ignition .

would this just be , coil pack or leads or does the square with zig zag refer to more ?

Will have to get code reader again

The light on the dash that looks like a square with zig-zag in it, I think it looks like a hear rate monitor lol. That's the engine immobiliser light/electrical fault light according to my handbook

 

[finch wxm]

Yeah that's the one buddy .

i now have that on the dash so it's picking up a fault now that wasn't displaying on the dash .

not sure if that's a good thing or not !

 

[leew88]

Is the imobiliser light still staying on solid

 

[finch wxm]

No that goes of when the key is turned to ignition.

its turning over but not firing .

The electrical fault light is on but this afternoon it wasn't .

wonder if tdc sensor has gone faulty . I do have the new blue type fitted

 

[leew88]

Lights out so id look at tdc sensor give it a clean

Is the zigzag light not the eml

 

[finch wxm]

I'm not sure buddy what it is ?

Somebody said electrical fault light ?

 

[leew88]

It it stops turning after 3secnds its a coms problem between the uch and ecu but if it keeps turning then id look at tdc 1st

Not sure it would bring up.the eml tho

 

[finch wxm]

As far as I'm aware it will keep turning over . Yeah not sure why EML light has come
on and wasn't on before .

im hoping mark who I borrowed the diagnostic tool of is going to pop around one night NS plug it up as he know how to use it better and check sensors data as I'm struggling !

i thought I'd cracked it when it was turning over !