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Checking the cambelt is timed up properly



  '92 172, Lotus Elise
just did a compression test (with all the plugs out)

1, 3 and 4 ~ 115psi
2 ~ 0 psi :eek:
 
  '92 172, Lotus Elise
ive already paid out too much :(


Looks like Dan can expect a minibus full of angry people pitching up on his doorstep, c**t
 
M

mini-valver

Gutted mate :(

WHy not drop a complete engine in, now the conversions done? Then you can rebuild the dud as and when, as a project?

Chin up fella!
 
Is that how you got the engine with the cambelt on?

Or did you put the belt on yourself?

If he sold you that faulty thats really quite out of order im sorry to hear that.
 
  172 Race Car
has lemonnobby1 still got that complete head for sale? he wanted like £120 or something. Might be worth a shout
 
  '92 172, Lotus Elise
yup, was given to me with the cambelt tensioner loose :(


I've taken the cam cover off and have found that some of the things that the cam lobes pivot (technical innit) were not in their right place!

I thought maybe i could've dislodged them when i removed the cover but on closer inspection, there is some damage to the area (around cylinder 2 where the 0 compression was)...

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worth putting it all back together and timing it up, to see if it runs?
 
  LY 182
stop there mate! that will be why you had no compression! probably no need to pull the head off, cant you just sort out the rocker/ lifter situation and then try it?
or best still tow it to a garage how it is now to do a leak test on it as all the valves will be shut
 

rctempire

ClioSport Moderator
I know mine isnt a 172, but this was my problem.
Took head off for skimming and put head back on, pushed belt back on, started engine, and timing was off and the engine was dying.

Took engine mounts on the cambelt side off. Adjusted the belt to be TDC on the flywheel and the crankshaft. Built back up the engine and fired up car again, still was firing on three cylinders. Took injectors off, replaced them, replaced coil pack, replaced sparks, replaced ht leads.
Then took rocker cover off and checked the tapets again, found out that one exhaust tapet was constantly closed. Whipped in feeler gauge and adjusted tapets.
Put rocker cover back on and it fired first time.

In fairness should have checked the tapets when the head was off. Doh.
 
  '92 172, Lotus Elise
the oil pressure light goes off when cranking/running

how should i go about checking the tappets without removing the head?
 
  LY 182
they are hyraulic on yours mate, they will want squeezing in a vice (purists will probably start on me for saying that)
when they pump up with oil the self adjust and if they havnt been assembled in the same way and/or valve seats have been lapped or cut then the hydrualics will be holding the valves open.
 
  LY 182
you found the hydraulic tappets yet? they are under the followers
whack a pic of one up i'll show ya what i mean.
 
  Clio 1.6L 16V
I had bend my 8 exhaust valves and one of the rockers were off his original position when I took off the top cover engine, so mate I think that sound of the engine are the exhaust valves crashing with the piston, that's why you have 0 psi at the second cylinder, that's my opinion, cheers.
 
  BMW M135i
Does seem very dry in there. Not good, any scoring on the cams? The tossers fucked you good and proper here :(. Leak test would be my first port of call, that or pull the head and see what you find.
 
  '92 172, Lotus Elise
cams look unmarked (had a good look)

more effort of getting the damn thing to a garage! :(
 
  '92 172, Lotus Elise
if a leak test comes back as fine... will that mean the valves etc are all fine and i can hopefully put it all back together properly and time it up etc and it should run?
 
If cyl leakage is sub 10-12% you should be ok with dry cylinder walls. But in reality you want to ignore the readings really as most cheapo gauges give pretty useless readings.

You will want to set the engine to the comp stroke at tdc and check leakage, but listen to the inlet port, exhaust port and in the breather/oil filler. If there is air leaking you will be able to identify from where easier. If its an in/ex port spray in some brake cleaner to fill the majority of it up and you can visually check which area of the seat is leaking and by how much. If its like a jacuzzi then you have issues.
 


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