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clio V6 or..........





hello all i currenly have my mk2 vts saxo up for sale to get something a little better..... either a mk1 V6 or a 182 cup im really undecided can some one tell me of tuning mods ect for both cars reliability servicing costs ect im swaying toward the V6 but i want a proppa drivers car and dunno if the V6 will chew me up iv heared on coilovers they handle quite well but is there anything engine wise to make it a bit quicker? looked on k-tec and they have a exhaust manifold combo which gives 12bhp but its over a grand. please help me whith my car choice people..... i will have 13k to spend, dont want a evo or scooby either thanks.

honda origanal shaped r-type

clio v6

182 cup tuned

or something else u dont see everyday any ideas
 


escort cosworth - it wont depreaciate, but they are old now, so finding a minter may be hard.

A mk1 v6 clio wont really drop much more either as there not that many of them about, plus they dont make them any more.
 


thats what i was thinking steamywindows, but i like to get looked at so thats why id probably always sway toward the V6 has some one got there V6 supercharged on here anyone elso done any thing stupid to theres? any vids so i can get a idea of how it sounds?
 
  Clio RS 172 Ph2


Interesting to see the good ole Escort Cosworth get a mention in this thread... Ive had 2 of them (small & big turbo), and that said, I really dont understand what all the commotion is with the handling of the V6 mk1. Comparing it to the esc cossies (in the dry at least) its every bit as good at handling - and mines with standard suspension! I must admit, in the wet the cossie was awesome, and although Ive not had any traumas in the vee, I do think that to give it some in the wet is probably asking for trouble!

Before this turns into the usual 182 v/s V6 arguement, I will say this... The V6 does take some time to get to grips with. My ex had a 172 and anyone could jump into it and take it fast as it was an easy car to drive fast. The V6 is a different beast. Unless youre familiar with rear engine / RWD setup, then its going to feel odd at first, and wont give you the confidence in corners of a front engine FWD car, but believe me, once you have got your head around it, youd think long and hard before buying a FWD car again..., as its simply fantastic to go round tight bends with the throttle open instead of having to ease off on the approach!

I would personally choose the V6 over a 182/CUP/Trophy any day. They will depreciate and be worth £5k or less within 2-3 years, whereas the V6 will still fetch £10k or more - mark my words.

Given the choice against a *mint* Esc Cosworth, would be a very very difficult decision, but like has been said, the Clios are 5 years old, the Escorts 10-12, so finding a minter is very hard, most have dubious histories or have been badly abused and modified.

To answer some of your other questions:

Tuning potential - V6 not much without LOTS of money spending - Escort Cosworth - HUGE tuning potential - but from my experience this comes with a knock on impact on reliability.

Servicing Costs - V6 - £130-150 for most services, Escort Cosworth - £200-350.

Reliability - My V6 has had CAT & Coil pack problems. My big turbo Cossie had ECU, Immobilisor, Water Ingress & Drive-shaft problems, the small turbo had turbo boost trouble and damaged cats. All in all, these cars (Clio or Escort) are not cheap to look after, and you should always budget for repair & servicing costs, though again the V6 being newer should present you less problems.

Fuel Economy - Im getting 27mpg from the V6, the Cossies in standard guise used to give me about 29mpg.


[Edited by 137699 on 31 August 2005 at 5:22pm]
 
  Renault ChaVio


If it was me Id buy the V6 (but then I am looking for one to buy one anyway so I am biased). Nothing wrong with the 182 – the V6 is just a different sort of car.

As for the mods – Id spend £500 on some one on one high performance driving tuition and go far quicker than a induction kit and an exhaust can make me go.
 


Honda Integra Type R new shape DC5, 220ps standard.. but with jackson racing supercharger.. u r talking about 260+ ps.. and the value of the second-hand one is about the same as the v6!
 
  Clio RS 172 Ph2


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Focus RS - cant beat them
but you wouldnt be able to get one for 13k
No way at all, they are still 16k +
And they come complete with that gawdy interior with bright blue bits everywhere... Sorry Im a fast-ford fan (see earlier post) and when they announced the FocusRS I got very interested, then I saw what theyd done to the inside, and there was no way I could live with that!
 


same the stripy bluse and black leather interior imo looks gash something like the 182 trophy interior would have set it off. my friend had one running some conversion and was pushing 370bhp and 400lft used to piss on M3s all day long lol. but yes far to expensive at around 16k for a good one. id be tempted if they were a bit cheeper. HUGE
 


TUNING POTENTIAL for little money, whats the best way to tune a V6 any ideas? how do they sound with exhaust, manifold and filter any one have any on there comp? if so im sure not only i would be interested in hearing it.
 


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