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BMW M4; S1000 RR
Firstly we all know it probably hasn't got 172hp lol
No I don't drive anywhere flat out, it doesn't need the power it has for what I use it for, but it doesn't mean it's not nice to have. Conversly I wouldn't spend a penny (or a minute of my time) on the engine trying to make it go faster as it's money/time I'd never see again, and that doesn't make sense in my head.
Again it depends if you enjoy doing it or not, personally I like building up project cars and i dont expect to see my money back.
Just like I enjoy doing trackdays even though I have to pay to do them.
BMW M4; S1000 RR
^ Like I've said mate, that's cool. If you enjoy it why would my opinion on tackling the same task affect you?
BMW M4; S1000 RR
Ideal. Wasn't suggesting or implying that, enjoy the Mk1 build.
Result! ASL? maybe we could hook up?
Edition 30
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Seems like a stand-up guy. Proper petrol head too, by the looks of things. We could do with more of his type on here. Too many keybaord racers who think they know everything because someone from The Internet told them about a review in Evo.
Scrooge
ClioSport Moderator
E55 AMG
I like him, I love you though. Feel special now?
Exactly, too many self proclaimed genius' on here.
Driven a 500hp v6, no? f**k off then.
Edition 30
I've always felt special. It's the reason I have a carer.
FLOL. You'll go far on here :approve:
Its a Laguna one if it sounds better
It does have a gearbox from a van though.
What a moronic statement. Other than a GTR I can't think of many 'common' V6's with over 500Bhp...So on your basis, nobody is entitled a view on the matter?!
Point is, the lad had put a motor in the back of a Nova, it's a demonstration of engineering ability. It doesn't make him any more or less of a Petrohead than anyone else on here...let’s be honest we all share a common interest; be it trackdays, detailing or meets.
What amuses me and has always amused me most about this forum is that the folk that moan about the keyboard warriors/racers and indeed the keyboard warriors/racers.
Not sure i follow. But i'll let it fly.
"The what if's" as per your previous post are made by people who have some common sense. I think 500bhp in a v6 is a ridiculous idea. Would i want 500bhp in a clio. No. Would i want 300? - Yes. That's a realistic figure. I beleive i'm in a decent position to make that comment.
"The what if's" as per your previous post are made by people who have some common sense. I think 500bhp in a v6 is a ridiculous idea. Would i want 500bhp in a clio. No. Would i want 300? - Yes. That's a realistic figure. I beleive i'm in a decent position to make that comment.
Power to weight is addictive, the more you are used to it the more you want to a certain extent.
Porkies westfield at 800bhp per tonne (ie about the same as an 1100bhp v6 clio) is no doubt going to feel utterly mental to me the next time I go in it (was only 500bhp per tonne last time I did) and yet he's probably getting pretty used to it by now.
For me, 300bhp per tonne is about the optimum generally, thats about average for the turbocharged cars that I tend to map for others or build for myself I would say, so to me that feels relatively normal, and thats the 400-500 ballpark for a car the weight of a V6 clio.
For some people the figure that feels right to them will be far more than that, for others it will be far less, thats a figure that many manufacturers cars make though, like ferraris and top end porsches, so I dont really see how anyone can consider it inherently too dangerous for the road.
Porkies westfield at 800bhp per tonne (ie about the same as an 1100bhp v6 clio) is no doubt going to feel utterly mental to me the next time I go in it (was only 500bhp per tonne last time I did) and yet he's probably getting pretty used to it by now.
For me, 300bhp per tonne is about the optimum generally, thats about average for the turbocharged cars that I tend to map for others or build for myself I would say, so to me that feels relatively normal, and thats the 400-500 ballpark for a car the weight of a V6 clio.
For some people the figure that feels right to them will be far more than that, for others it will be far less, thats a figure that many manufacturers cars make though, like ferraris and top end porsches, so I dont really see how anyone can consider it inherently too dangerous for the road.
We could gas all day about power to weight and performance. The simple fact is, and it was lost on page 1 is the Clio V6 does not have 400-500Bhp. Very few people have modified them due to the sheer cost, and before you comment on that, the people that have are technically very smart.
Like I’ve said, www.v6clio.net is a decent source of info, infact the only source of info. You only need to mention v6 on here for the topic to go off in tangents!
Time for breakfast.
Like I’ve said, www.v6clio.net is a decent source of info, infact the only source of info. You only need to mention v6 on here for the topic to go off in tangents!
Time for breakfast.
172 track thingy
sounds a little better lol but seriously a van gear box??
Only the casing...Ratio's are significantly different.
Evo 5 RS
Should get back on topic, and Chip can come back when he's successfully tuned a Laguna engine to 500bhp in the space of a nats ****
I think Mike's was only 450bhp anyway, btw. I say only in reflection of how much it cost
I think Mike's was only 450bhp anyway, btw. I say only in reflection of how much it cost
172 track thingy
how does your 172 in current form compare to a V6 pace wise??
No reason it needs to be a laguna engine still to make good use of the platform.
I could transplant the engine from my nova into one potentially for example, or use a K20 honda engine like some of the kit cars have started to, £5K is plenty to get an engine at 500bhp, a gearbox that can take it and a limited slip diff.
so although im sure it wouldnt be the end of the world trying to get that power out of the existing engine, its not the only option anyway.
Likewise an evo engine will do that power with minimal spend and can be run on a fwd gearbox for the right layour, or an mr2/celica engine, or loads of others.
Its quite amusing how difficult you guys seem to think something as relatively routine as getting 500bhp from an engine is.
Evo 5 RS
Not tried! If you're going by book figures probably not much in it. My cars 'quick' it's not a 500bhp Nova 
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So now you're talking about a transplant as well? Nah, I'm out.. that's cheating
.So now you're talking about a transplant as well? Nah, I'm out.. that's cheating
Absolute dream car for me. Along with an RSi beetle. Surely there is better out there but an individuals opinion is their own, end of. The balls it took for Renault to do them, brilliant, and they pedal too, heard about that Ali on here running one round the ring well and I've seen/been in a few on track to know they are top fun/lairy.
There's some tragic Internet attitudes in here mind, 99% know jack s**t and shoot down someone with real technical knowledge, if the lads wrong, discuss, not b**ch like f**king kids on whose got the biggest pixel **** on WOW...
Anyway, I want Fred's vee or magpies, would of had chris's acid but he sold it, grrrr.
There's some tragic Internet attitudes in here mind, 99% know jack s**t and shoot down someone with real technical knowledge, if the lads wrong, discuss, not b**ch like f**king kids on whose got the biggest pixel **** on WOW...
Anyway, I want Fred's vee or magpies, would of had chris's acid but he sold it, grrrr.
fred had bet with me about his v last week^^^^
obviously i lost
obviously i lost
So now you're talking about a transplant as well? Nah, I'm out.. that's cheating
I was talking about a transplant as an option pages ago mate, its just the platform that I think is awesome, the engine is pretty average and if I bought one with a blown up engine which is only way im likely to buy one, I would very possibly decide that the best engine for it wasnt the one that came out of it.
Hence my nova has a saab engine, and my clio mk1 im building with a vtec engine, and I have a half built mini with a vauxhall engine in, Im not one for sticking with an engine if its not the right one for the job!
I'm not really sure what this is about anymore.
We know it didn't come with 500hp, but there's no reason to take it personally because someone would like to tune it so that it does.
Seriously, you could replace "V6" with "GT5" in every post in this thread, and it would still make sense.
/PS3
We know it didn't come with 500hp, but there's no reason to take it personally because someone would like to tune it so that it does.
Seriously, you could replace "V6" with "GT5" in every post in this thread, and it would still make sense.
/PS3
You forgot FWD is pointless.
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