Clio 172 ph2 / bikes
Alrighty, coilovers, so its a topic that comes up from time to time.
So here's a wee write up just highlight where i'm at. over the last 4-5 years of ph2 172 ownership initially ran cup shocks on eibach sportlines, was well impressed for a budget setup but after switching to 15"/ps3s and significant weight stripping i found it to just sit too high. Going low was and never will be the goal, i dont care for the stance scene, functionally low is what i'm after.
Next decided to go bilstein b14 which definetly was much better, rear ride height being still slightly higher than ideal given that there's no weight in the back and theyre not designed with a stripped car on smaller wheels in mind. I reckon they deserve their reputation, minus limiting rear height adjustability theyre almost perfect for road use but i was finding them a bit soft when really pushed on with ad08r / rs / ns2r. Not sure if it was damping or spring rate i was finding issue with though.
So i went with what seemed like the next sensible option for a budget brie' road bashing "hero" spec 172. Gaz gha's spec'd with fr425/r300 ftlb, stuck conservativeish with the spring rates as i bounced between semi slicks / ps3s seasonally at the time, it is primarily a road car and just went a little stiffer than b14s. Found the spring rates to be slightly more suited but any more than this to me is just more comprimising than im looking for. So anyway the rear height adjustment the proper coilover allows for is good and the damper adjustment was fun to experiment with but the range of useful adjustment is a bit limited but is plenty fine and serves its purpose. Ultimately the b14s are a better setup but just lack that little more flexibility in adjustment im looking for.
In the meantime... Ive Matured a smidge and decided to retire the semi slicks for road use, ive wound my neck in a bit and its too much money to be replacing tyres as often on a daily, might play with them in the future but im not going to set the car up based on them. Ps3s on 15s are great on the road minus the sidewalls being softer than id like but any more tyre than this is, whilst lots of fun, is just over the top.
So... I miss the compliant nature of b14s and for numerous reasons i've had enough of the gha's. If only the b14 had a little more adjustment to suit.
Any thoughts for a fast road coilover? Thinking about trying out bc racing as thats as high as the budget will stretch, shame theyre not proper rear coilovers but at least their rear shocks are height adjustable vs just spring and adjuster.
Any thoughts, experience in this area or on clio bc's would be appreciated.
So here's a wee write up just highlight where i'm at. over the last 4-5 years of ph2 172 ownership initially ran cup shocks on eibach sportlines, was well impressed for a budget setup but after switching to 15"/ps3s and significant weight stripping i found it to just sit too high. Going low was and never will be the goal, i dont care for the stance scene, functionally low is what i'm after.
Next decided to go bilstein b14 which definetly was much better, rear ride height being still slightly higher than ideal given that there's no weight in the back and theyre not designed with a stripped car on smaller wheels in mind. I reckon they deserve their reputation, minus limiting rear height adjustability theyre almost perfect for road use but i was finding them a bit soft when really pushed on with ad08r / rs / ns2r. Not sure if it was damping or spring rate i was finding issue with though.
So i went with what seemed like the next sensible option for a budget brie' road bashing "hero" spec 172. Gaz gha's spec'd with fr425/r300 ftlb, stuck conservativeish with the spring rates as i bounced between semi slicks / ps3s seasonally at the time, it is primarily a road car and just went a little stiffer than b14s. Found the spring rates to be slightly more suited but any more than this to me is just more comprimising than im looking for. So anyway the rear height adjustment the proper coilover allows for is good and the damper adjustment was fun to experiment with but the range of useful adjustment is a bit limited but is plenty fine and serves its purpose. Ultimately the b14s are a better setup but just lack that little more flexibility in adjustment im looking for.
In the meantime... Ive Matured a smidge and decided to retire the semi slicks for road use, ive wound my neck in a bit and its too much money to be replacing tyres as often on a daily, might play with them in the future but im not going to set the car up based on them. Ps3s on 15s are great on the road minus the sidewalls being softer than id like but any more tyre than this is, whilst lots of fun, is just over the top.
So... I miss the compliant nature of b14s and for numerous reasons i've had enough of the gha's. If only the b14 had a little more adjustment to suit.
Any thoughts for a fast road coilover? Thinking about trying out bc racing as thats as high as the budget will stretch, shame theyre not proper rear coilovers but at least their rear shocks are height adjustable vs just spring and adjuster.
Any thoughts, experience in this area or on clio bc's would be appreciated.