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R26
More tuning potential on the corsa as its turbo. Getting more power out of a clio = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Ph2 172
my old car -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeqs_Yr3DLQ
230bhp, 249lb/ft torque
mods - remus exhaust, dap race lowering springs, eds remap, regal intercooler and hard pipe kit, courtney sport panel filter and team dynamic pro race 1.2 alloys. It was a really nice car mate i loved it.
Torque steer.......yessss, all good fun though, still had a lot of fun on the track
Never drove a 200 so i couldn't comment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeqs_Yr3DLQ
230bhp, 249lb/ft torque
mods - remus exhaust, dap race lowering springs, eds remap, regal intercooler and hard pipe kit, courtney sport panel filter and team dynamic pro race 1.2 alloys. It was a really nice car mate i loved it.
Torque steer.......yessss, all good fun though, still had a lot of fun on the track
Never drove a 200 so i couldn't comment.
Civic Type R
Could of picked up two in the last couple of weeks, both 2007 plates less than 25k miles, and sub 7k @ auction though. BCA have been having quite a few, was tempted on both ocassions, I think they look pretty sweet. Apparently they aint put together too well though, given the choice it would be the 200, no comparison.
N0ddie
ClioSport Club Member
Tesla Model 3
Both very good cars. I've been fortunate enough to drive both around a track. The 200 Cup is awesome around the track, more refined etc. but that is to be expected. I was left shocked at how well the Corsa VXr done around the same track. Yes it is a wee bit slower, but no by much. Both very capable cars but spend 1k ish on the Corsa and it'll definately be faster.
It did but the company in question sorted out the car.
N0ddie
ClioSport Club Member
Tesla Model 3
The company was Thorney Motorsport I believe. Theres been a few of their remapped cars been in for piston number 4 issues.
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
N0ddie
ClioSport Club Member
Tesla Model 3
In the hands of a normal person ie. not a former race car driver they aint all that different.
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Surely having the same person test driving them, regardless of skill, makes it more fair?
If you drove one and a race car driver in the other, you might have a point.
This. It's like Vauxhall have just thought, 'what else can we do...?!' when it came to the design. And one of the designers suggesting that they visit Halfords for some advice. Not that the 200 wins on looks.
I'm sure they are capable though and cheap to mod, which is always appealing!
Ive owned a corsa vxr and i loved it, stage 1 with remus exhaust kicking out around 225bhp, was very quick! and with all cars they have issues, wheel bearings, cracked radiators and the dreaded piston 4 issue
But since changing to my 172 cup ive never regretted it one bit, the clio has more character i think and its just so fun do drive, im not gonna knock the corsa though as i has bags of fun in that to, they are good cars to own
But since changing to my 172 cup ive never regretted it one bit, the clio has more character i think and its just so fun do drive, im not gonna knock the corsa though as i has bags of fun in that to, they are good cars to own
This is true. No one can argue that laptimes do give a fair(ish) indication of a car's ability. I say 'ish' because not all times are achieved on the same day, in the same conditions, with the same driver. Although obviously, in this example it's hard to ignore what Stiff is saying. It terms of ultimate lap pace, it's hard to argue with that video. Again though, most people do not spend a good percentage of their mileage ripping it up around a race track. There's little doubt that the Clio is the better drive when near the limit, but that does't mean it's a better car, does it? Well in this context, then yes, it does. I suppose I'm commenting more on CS's infatuation with speed and lap times. More importantly, lap times that very few of us would be able to get anywhere near. Myself included.
Then again, when all is said and done, I have not driven a 200 or a Corsa VXR, so I'm probably being a bit of a c**t in thinking I'm qualified to comment
EDIT: We also allegedly already know that their laps on that show are far from entirely true. Or is that only when the most popular car on CS gets beaten?
For those of us who don't want to modify their car, there's little difference in straightline performance you'll find on the road. The VXR, being more torqey will feel the quicker car though. Vauxhall's lifetime warranty is also very appealing for the potential owner.
Laps times and performance; I'm not a professional racer nor do I launch my car off every traffic light so any figures are pub talk.
I know people who have had issues with both 200s and VXRs. Test drive both, buy the car you like.
Laps times and performance; I'm not a professional racer nor do I launch my car off every traffic light so any figures are pub talk.
I know people who have had issues with both 200s and VXRs. Test drive both, buy the car you like.
Bluebeard
ClioSport Moderator
Whichever has fuel
I bought a 200 mainly because I think the VXR range was styled by a chav that won a competition on a packet of Coco-Pops...
BUT!! You need to drive/look at them both as its all down to the drive for you imo. If you're even considering them together you should drive them both just to see if you can rule one or the other out.
BUT!! You need to drive/look at them both as its all down to the drive for you imo. If you're even considering them together you should drive them both just to see if you can rule one or the other out.
The VXR's remind me over the 'MG Z*" range of recent times, in that it's a bit like the designers were short of time and money, and just crashed the standard cars into the the Ripspeed stand at their local Halfords.
I'm not saying the 200 is a thing of beauty ('cos it clearly aint!) btw.. but the VXR is hideous imho.
I'm not saying the 200 is a thing of beauty ('cos it clearly aint!) btw.. but the VXR is hideous imho.
Ph2 172
hi mate,
Various reasons really. The main one was i wanted to buy a house, and the car was still on finance, so by selling it freed up a lot of cash pm for the savings / mortgage etc. Plus, I was that hooked on modifying it and paticipating in meets / events I was just spending a fortune.
The other reasons, were the amount of liitle issues I had with it, luckily all sorted out under warranty. I have a massive thread count on vxronline under the same user name if you want to know a bit more.
Despite all that I still loved it, but i'm not missing it that much although I would look for a turbo car next as I do miss boost!!!!
I still have as much fun if not more blasting down the b roads in the 172, plus it's paid for, which has allowed my and my fiance to buy a house and we should be getting the keys next week!
Hopefully, i can get it on a few track days as it's much less worrying ragging round in a 3k car and a 13k car!!!
brisa4984
ClioSport Club Member
depends what u want.
200 has such a sweet chassis, gear change and driving position. I love it in fact.
VXR has the tuning capability but does it have the chassis and terain to cope with power increase. tbh by the sounds of it i think it will drive like s**t. Watch out for 3rd or 4th piston cant remember which one goes bang.
200 has such a sweet chassis, gear change and driving position. I love it in fact.
VXR has the tuning capability but does it have the chassis and terain to cope with power increase. tbh by the sounds of it i think it will drive like s**t. Watch out for 3rd or 4th piston cant remember which one goes bang.
Ph2 172
4th is common, but tbh if you treat it right and get in mapped at one of the main tuners then you won't have a problem!
What are you comparing this to? I found the gearbox mediocre and seating position quite high.
Was he in reverse
lol! allrite man thanks for the breakdown, yeah, im 19 ain't got to worry about getting a house yet, still live at home lol! But yeah, when the times comes i will drive both, it will be the corsa vxr arctic or clio 200 alien green cup. either way, both depreciate badly so it can't be called a good investment lol. Most likely will be the 200 b/cuz mate has a vxr will have to ask to drive his one soon.
RB Clio 200
I would have to say drive both, a lad down my road has the VXR and I have the 200, on a country road I win hands down he says when pushed the corsa feels light and unbalanced. Plus the fact it has been back to vauxhall more times than its seen his driveway doesn't feel me with confidence tbh. Piston 4 issue blew up his first engine and his exhaust blew a nice hole last month.
I drove both when I was looking. Ended up with a 200, vxr feels quicker in a straight line but coming out of corners the 200 wins every time. The vxr feels like it's scrambling for grip, the 200 seems to grip and launch you a bit better. But the thing that made me decide was the vxr broke down on the test drive lol. But defo drive both good way to spend a weekend. Plus got Clio on 0%
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
2.2s at bedford, according to evo. No idea if they were set at the same time etc......
