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DCi 65bhp to 85 bhp
- Thread starter Big Iain
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difference?? lol the 85hp engine 1.5dci has a little turbo
but a chip will give you near 20hp..
the two engines are the
65 hp version seems to give about 70hp on the dynos though
80hp version which gives about 85 on dynos
the difference is only the 80hp has an intercooler bigger injectors a new fueling map and a dump valve. they hav the same internals and exhause i believe
the 65 hp can go to about 85 with a chip or tuning box or 90 with chip and exhaust i believe
the 80 hp does to about 105hp with a chip
i have been thinking though reciently that if u stick a larger intercooler fuel pump exhause and fuelign map that the little diesel would hit something like 120hp and 180lb torque
and if they increased the insurance group by as much as the % power the dci would be an insurance group 8 which is excellent for 120hp
anyone up to run there car as a teat bed for my ideas
The Jinx
Ill allow mine as a test bed. Providing costs are significantly reduced? Tunit box with RR tune is being saved up for at the mo. That gives 105bhp.
Before you consider chipping your 65bhp diesel, think about why Renault uses an intercooler on the 80bhp version. Probably in order to prevent the engine/turbo from overheating (apart from giving cooler air, of course..). The Pug 206 HDI doesnt really like being chipped without having an intercooler installed (runs without as standard), for example - Ive heard a few stories about HDIs giving up because of hard use combined with a too aggressive chip.
Regards,
CJ
Does anyone have any idea what would be required to put any intercooler be it a normal dci80 version or an even larger one on it.
I take it that you need some sort of heat transfere unit and piping to replace the piping presently used to move the hot air from the turbo to the engine.
im guessing that the parts wont cost more than £100 and a large intercooler seems to be about £300 (well land rover diesel seem to be about that looking in the mags)
"The sole job of an intercooler is to condense air.... NOT to keep the engine cool... You use radiators and oil coolers to keep the engine cool!"
As far as Im concerned, the IC will lower the temperature of the intake air, lower the temperature of the engine oil and the temperature in the compustion chmaber, making for a more reliable solution on a chipped/modified turbo car.. But please prove me wrong if possible!
Regards,
CJ
My limited technical knowlege would say that an intercooler cools down the air after the turbo has compressed it and before its injected into the compustion chanber. By uising colder air the air is more compressed so more dense. This means you have more potential air to burn hence more power.
I guess the intercooler does keep the oil temp down for the same power seting because your using cooler air in the engine in the first place
My point exactly..
-CJ
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someone here says the have a 65hp version and has a Forge intercooler to go in so hopefully he will tell us how to do it all maybe even pictures and a step by step guide
I need to find out what version intercooler is being used as Forge dont make Clio ones so must be some custom job.
I would love to see the diffference in engine layout between my engine (65hp) and an 80 hp with an intercooler and see what parts are needed
