Who's the muppet that thinks a 230 kompressor is faster than any RS Clio. They have far too much weight and not enough power,
I think some of you/friends are too pub talk orientated. Power/weight calculations are the simplest and dare I say most reliable way of giving straight line acceleration to certain speeds.
The Clio will potentially loose out over 120 as it's like driving a brick. (anyway it's not it's purpose). Slippery cars can have naff acceleration yet a higher top speed. Does it mean its a faster car. Nope, the basic Elise, VX220 will prove the point.
Why oh why is everyone trying to compare a piece of cheese to a piece of chalk.
I feel sorry for the 230Komp. fan club. Any RSClio will not only out do it on acceleration, but the handling is even further apart. Just because it has a lower drag coefficient and a very slightly higher top end means nought.
There are a few people that understand power to weight gives acceleration only up to the point where drag/power stiffles the cars ability to go any faster.
Torque is not accelerative just the ability to pull harder.
It's a shame that people have never been able to differentiate the two. Why do you think a huge amount of diesel torque can never match raw BHP. It comes in wads with no time to exploit.
Boys don't come back with "yes, but if you get a remap". So what, like for like only. After all it's the ONLY way to compare
We've had comments that rate torque as an accelerative force.
, why? If that was so then why do CTR's and other highly stung cars obliterate the diesels? w**k!!! to mags. The in gear accelation is done in top gear, but why would a RS Clio driver be in 5th at 50 to accelerate to 70, or 70 to 100. You should learn your cars and exploit their strenghts. 3rd for the first or 4th for the second question. If you drive any RS for 40mpg then forget it. It's a highly strung car. Why OH OH OH why do you want to drive them if you feel torque is the answer.
Remember they only use highest gearing for these tests. Can no one realise the RS is a high reving beast and all high revers will be the same. The CTR has the same BHP/TON yet less TORQUE/TON. This of course ignorses the fact the tests are done on basic cars without the drag of A/C.
See ya
Blaze