drop/camber plates

[ipodsandguns]

as per

The above are a VW set.
How come they aint used much in other formats?

To me they seem a better choice then lower springs as, you gain spacing, a drop and keep OEM spring rates etc?

 

[ipodsandguns]

I was hoping some of the big wigs would have an educated answer for me .

 

[Knuckles]

So how exactly do these work? They may not be as popular because people outside vag circles don't know about them... There's my 2p

 

[Wick]

As above.... never heard of them! How do they work? Bolt to shock top, to raise where they attach, therefore closing arch gap? Or am I missing the point?!

 

[ipodsandguns]

The hub is bolted to the end of the rear axel.

Camber shims can be put between to ad camber as per a cup racer, a drop plate fits kinda in the same way. its normally at least 10mm think, you bolt the hub to the upper 4 holes and the rear beam to the upper. The plate can some times be machined so cater for camber.

Work it out from the pics?

 

[a1dan0204]

Not seen a pic before but have heard of them, (only on a vw though)

But My theory of them is are they just a ashthetic option though, because as you say you keep oe spec coil and damp specs, and in a non chav lifestyle the purpose of lowering a car is to achieve a harder/more responsive spec that promotes less roll and more stability.....

And these plates wont offer that, only offer a lower height or different camber angle??!??!? I know camber angle does improve handling before i get shouted at.

Very Happy to be corrected if wrong only a guess really...

 

[adam172]

So all the cornering weight is on that piece of metal ?

I see how it work but surly it's more a show type thing?

 

[Ian_s]

Really dont see the point, what do you do about the front? Your still doing to need springs for the front so your going to have harder lower springs at the front and soft oe springs at the rear.

 

[adam172]

having another think about it these would be good if you run them with coilovers, every body knows that front coilover go down allot more than the rears, so by running this set up you can achieve more drop without removing the adjusters/ the rubber cup thing and you will be running the harder coilover spring.

were can you get these? or are them custom made? never seen them before?

 

[ipodsandguns]

They are no more weight baring then the single strut bolt....

Main plus is that if used with coilovers you dont need to do s**t like remove adjusters so the springs and dampener will work as designed.

While widening the track.

 

[adam172]

Main plus is that if used with coilovers you dont need to do s**t like remove adjusters so the springs and dampener will work as designed.

While widening the track.

Yes is what I was thinking, seems a good idea BUT surely there is a fair amount of presure on the middle of the plate as the wheel ect is suspended from it not to mention the added force from running some camber?

Btw I'm asking question about these as I would be VERY interested in running a pair !

 

[ipodsandguns]

They dont need to be made with camber, In turn making them stronger. There is much more areas of the chassis that bare weight but seem much weaker. I could make theses out of 20mm Hardox, so that the rear track is widened by 40mm Of un-rotational weight.

If you think about the strut tower thats basically sheet metal and bears the weight of the front of the car and engine fine.

Im hoping the clio hub mounts in a square so I can design one with a 6 bolt configuration. So the drop would be about 45mm

 

[Wick]

Forgot I posted in this lastnight... That pic does clear it up a lot, honestly couldn't work out where they went!!

Re: Cornering weight, I would also express slight concern, but only on the basis that you are effectively adding another point of failure as it may be... Would adding the plate in not act as a "lever" of sorts? Thus increasing stress? But then as you have said, it may well still be more than strong enough to support it, I am less than clued up on these things juts making an observation lol!

 

[adam172]

A lever! That is how I was thinking of it tbh. If these can be made strong enough and were tested ect I would be very interested in some!